Will people ever stop bickering with each other????????????

[falcon7o]

When will people understand that there is no such thing as the greatest civilization or the top 16????????? Don't people understand that every civilization on earth that ever existed has contributed something like a unique language, or a form of writing. And just because some civilizations had a greater population, managed to construct more buildings, expanded more, or won more battles, it is more important than the smaller, more peaceful civilizations. That would be like saying that Christianity, Buddhism, and Islam is more important than Judaism and Hinduism; although, Christianity and Islam stem from Judaism, and Buddhism stems from Hinduism. Come on people, your favorite civilization is not more important than any other civilization in the world and if you think so, then you have some serious problems. I really think that the way they picked the civilizations is that they asked a group of people to write down 16 civilizations they know of, so if you have a problem with their picking, then don't buy the game!

[Bleyn]

What? Stop bickering? Are you mad? That would leave us with nothing to do at 4:00am but watch Ren & Stimpy reruns. And I don't know about you, but I hate Ren & Stimpy.

Seriously, I doubt it. Thats just life. Some people will always hold dear to personal opinions and beliefs no matter how silly they might be. And others just enjoy stirring up arguments for the sheer devilment of it. Personally, I just try to avoid most of the really ridiculous arguments, and stick with the saner and more reasonable discussions.

[Ribannah]

Re: Will people ever stop bickering with each other????????????

Originally posted by falcon7o
When will people understand that there is no such thing as the greatest civilization ...?????????

LOVE HIAWATHA!!

[joseph1944]

Re: Will people ever stop bickering with each other????????????

Originally posted by falcon7o
When will people understand that there is no such thing as the greatest civilization or the top 16????????? Don't people understand that every civilization on earth that ever existed has contributed something like a unique language, or a form of writing. And just because some civilizations had a greater population, managed to construct more buildings, expanded more, or won more battles, it is more important than the smaller, more peaceful civilizations. That would be like saying that Christianity, Buddhism, and Islam is more important than Judaism and Hinduism; although, Christianity and Islam stem from Judaism, and Buddhism stems from Hinduism. Come on people, your favorite civilization is not more important than any other civilization in the world and if you think so, then you have some serious problems. I really think that the way they picked the civilizations is that they asked a group of people to write down 16 civilizations they know of, so if you have a problem with their picking, then don't buy the game!

Actually a very good post, I like it.

[Dauphin]

Its not bickering, its debating.

[ancient]

why stop, its beter than doing nothing..

[YefeiPi]

Well I agree with this thread to a certain extent. Everyone here at Apolyton are from different parts of the world and different nationalities. I mean of couse, every one will favour their own civs. A poll like which the greatest civ can only indicate Apolyton is mainly visited by people from which part of the world!

I mean no matter what other people say, China is the greatest civ in my opinion. The next guy migh say America, and the next say England. I mean it's all about personal opinions and bias.

[Lung]

Originally posted by Bleyn
What? Stop bickering? Are you mad? That would leave us with nothing to do at 4:00am but watch Ren & Stimpy reruns. And I don't know about you, but I hate Ren & Stimpy.

Speak for yourself! You're just not on the right drugs

My first encounter with Ren & Stimpy was coming home drunk at 5.00am. I couldn't make it to bed, so i crashed on the lounge, but only after turning on the TV. After about a minute of watching Ren & Stimpy, i slowly thought "What the....? " I think i even swore off the alcohol for a nanosecond or two, but obviously thought better of it However, much to my surprise, it wasn't the alcohol but the actual show. Whoever made Ren & Stimpy must have been on some heavy sh*t! Then again, whaddya expect from a bunch of Canucks!

[Inverse Icarus]

blah @ this thread.

everyone knows that the human race will be the end of this planet.

the world too over 5 billion years to form, and within our 6000 some-odd years, or 200 if you count the industrial wastes as the major cause, we managed to fubar this planet.

EDIT: sorry im just in a bad mood.

[DarkCloud]

There is a reason to debating... we NEED to decide which civs are the most deserving so that we can decide whether we will praise Firaxis or scorn them.

[Pembleton]

Originally posted by UberKruX
blah @ this thread.

everyone knows that the human race will be the end of this planet.

the world too over 5 billion years to form, and within our 6000 some-odd years, or 200 if you count the industrial wastes as the major cause, we managed to fubar this planet.

A statement you made doesn't have anything to do with a good mood with me. I've been relatively happy the past few years, and also at this very moment, after a very depressed/angry youth, and I agree that what you said is pretty likely. We are currently the virus of our planet. A minority of humans may survive through technology, but this is after we've raped and ravaged the earth's resources. But this will all happen long after we're dead so I'm going to try to enjoy my life while I'm still here.

[Christantine The Great]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
There is a reason to debating... we NEED to decide which civs are the most deserving so that we can decide whether we will praise Firaxis or scorn them.

500 individual opinions for what "top 16" civs are NEVER going to be considered by Firaxis. You'll never reach a universial conclusion because there isn't one! What is useless is putting up a list of the "top 16", "most deserving", "The true civs", ect. because they are not and never will be a unified front. What is useful is to voice opinions about civilizations in particular, like what they should represent or if their CSU is accurate/useful. Those will (well I hope they will) be heard by Firaxis because they show if Firaxis made a mistake or a potentially unbalancing effect that must be fixed. The civs have already been chosen and I doubt that they will be changed. Deal with it and work with what you have, not what you want.

[fred]

Conflict is ultimate solution to resolution.

How would you pick 16 civs without having a conflict?

How do you know what to include and what not to?

Would you live your 16 civs to be cultures you have never before heard of? 1st Civ is Caveman 2nd is The people currently living in Greenland 3rd is some guy living on a deserted island in the south pacific, to scared to build a boat but will have sex with a monkey to incress the population.

Really conflict is how to improve, solve, create, and make sure the CivIII dev team doesnt make CTP blunder of civs. Where they include a bunch of countries that really arent civilizations.

Its the conflict haters that need to re-adjust. Anarchy=bliss

And with out conflict how do you know who the real losers are? they will walk among us and we would never know it ( i might be a loser you decide). The fact is you need conflict and bickering. It helps, it really does.

[falcon7o]

I'm just happy that people agree with me and the people who don't just don't like Ren & Stimpy . I think we should all think not, "Why is my civilization not here?" but rather, "Which, out of these sixteen, is my favorite?" IMHO, it's the Americans

NOTE: Americans is my favorite civ. and I'm in no way saying they are the best. I don't want to start an argument among the 16 civs. now.....

[falcon7o]

Originally posted by fred
Conflict is ultimate solution to resolution.

How would you pick 16 civs without having a conflict?

How do you know what to include and what not to?

Would you live your 16 civs to be cultures you have never before heard of? 1st Civ is Caveman 2nd is The people currently living in Greenland 3rd is some guy living on a deserted island in the south pacific, to scared to build a boat but will have sex with a monkey to incress the population.

Really conflict is how to improve, solve, create, and make sure the CivIII dev team doesnt make CTP blunder of civs. Where they include a bunch of countries that really arent civilizations.

Its the conflict haters that need to re-adjust. Anarchy=bliss

And with out conflict how do you know who the real losers are? they will walk among us and we would never know it ( i might be a loser you decide). The fact is you need conflict and bickering. It helps, it really does.

First of all conflict doesn't always help. I just hope you know that. Secondly, I really wouldn't care if there were 3 civs and I had to choose from the guy at 7-11, Bill Gates, and the civilization with no people. IT'S CALLED A GAME. Also, what if I was to say that the wheel never exsisted (probably not true). I can argue, and argue, and argue, and although I'm wrong, THE CONFLICT LED TO NOTHING. So think before you write please....