The KOREAN Civilization: Things Every Civ Player Should Know

[Aro]

Yellfromhell:
In Brazil, we feel the same. And we have some tribes.
King of Rasslin:
I can't wait to know what you have to say about jewish people. Or palestinians, arabs in general, refugees from Central Europe, afghans, indians (from India!) Did I forgot someone? You seems to have that little nice words about everybody: latino-americans, asians, afro-americans, native americans, african people... (including "stupid people")!
I can't wait.
Oh, si... Yellfromhell owns a computer, and is from medium class. Me too.
IMNSHO, you realy need to learn a little more about Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile... We are very interesting! Some of our richest people could buy a lot of computers, you know
BTW, you could learn more about YOUR country, too. Read the newspapers, especially the economic news. Or, if you don't read newspapers, too... Try the CNN!

[Q Classic]

if not CNN, FoxNews. Fox News breaks down world events with nice little graphics so everybody can understand them, and spins it conservatively.

CNN doesn't do that, but has a liberal bias. so.

[Aro]

Q Cubed,
You are right, Fox News IS better.

Edited: For the purpose, of course.

[Q Classic]

eh... actually, i prefer bbc. i don't like fox, because it can be insulting to intelligence, what with the in-your-face graphics; and i don't like cnn domestic-USA because it just misses the point sometimes, as well as being flat out wrong others.

on the other hand, i like CNN International, which is not saddled with the same problems. BBC World and Deutsche Welle are good, too.

[Aro]

I see two channels (CNN International, I don’t have BBC, and a brazilian news network on cable, Globo News), and read four newspapers almost every day, due to my job. It's necessary to find something close to the truth... I avoid this "smart graphics", too, and I have all your motives and one more to do this: for a long time (long to me: two months) I worked in a newspaper making that damn info graphics. Argh!!!
In my last post, I was trying to be sarcastic, but my english don't help... As a matter of fact, most of the press can be insulting to intelligence. We are in an electoral period here in Brazil, and some days the papers make me really mad. Because I know they are not telling the truth, I'm a journalist too…

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Ribannah

You have to distinguish between the city Tenochtitlan and the Aztecs. The city is much older and has indeed a rich history.

You mean that Aztecs came in as conquerors and simply inherited what their predecessors had? If that's the case, then who can represent Middle American civilization better than the Aztecs? The Olmecs who died out long time ago, the nameless people who build Teotihuacan and Tula, or the Tlaxcalans who helped Spanish crush the Aztecs?

[Jay Bee]

...plus, I think Ribannah is confusing Tenochtitlan with Teotihuacan. Tenochtitlan was founded by the Aztecs ca. 1325, when they settled in the valley of Mexico.

[King of Rasslin]

"if not CNN, FoxNews. Fox News breaks down world events with nice little graphics so everybody can understand them, and spins it conservatively.

CNN doesn't do that, but has a liberal bias. so."

I actually got a radio station that had bbc on it! I was just playing around with it but I got a decent news station. It seems to be faster than American news and it doesn't have the obscene number of ads on it. CNN is about as bad as it gets, Fox is a little better. News on the internet is best because you don't have to look at the ads.

Also, I don't have a problem about calling black people what they are. Black people. I saw some idiot on CNN call Nelson Mandela an African American! He isn't even a ****ing American citizen! He is an African civil rights leader that spent most of his life in prison. What do you guys call black people in Uruguay? African Uruguayans?

Sometimes it's best not to be politically correct, in my opinion.

[Aro]

King of Rasslin,
Here in Brazil we call them... people! It's very simple, try it! As said by Albert Einstein, we all belong to the human race...
BTW, I'm not politically correct, I can't. I'm a political cartoonist, and my duty is smash everyone who deserves. And I do this with nothing but my pencil!!! (In fact, I draw with my Wacom Pen). AND "black people" are not black. Is very difficult even to scientists find something really black. Even astronomical black holes have some radiation leaking from it.
So, should I call you Pink? Because you’re not white (did you know that?), unless you are dead, with no blood in your body.
In resume: all of us are "colored" people... You too, pale face!
I don't know if this post can be considered as spam, but discussions about this matter can help and improve everyone. And, maybe, make the world a little better.
Sorry, Yin26 and Q cubed…

[Lord Merciless]

I must remind everyone that Indians are "Whites", Arabs also qualify as "Whites. Linguistically speaking, Indian languages are closer to West European ones than either Finnish or Hungarian.


Yeah, I guessed somehow that Ribannah confused Tenochtitlan with Teotihuacan.

[King of Rasslin]

Indian Languages closer to West European? I thought Indians came to America from Asia, although I hear now that there is some white blood in them, learned from a DNA test. So maybe this was OUR land all along!

Also, there was a statue in Central America that is supposed to be really old that looks like a black person. I think American Indians are just every race mixed up, since they are very unique compared to the others.

[Aro]

If I'm not wrong, Lord Merciless is talking about Indians from India (religious, commercial), not Iroquois (religious, expansionist)

[King of Rasslin]

People from America are Indians.

People from India are Hindus.

[Q Classic]

...

[beats head against wall]

no, kor...

people from india are indians. a hindu is an indian who follows the particular religion of hinduism; but indians can and are muslim, sikh, christian, and buddhist as well.

people who lived in america were misnamed indians by colombus; besides, most native americans prefer to be called by either:
a) native american
b) native people
c) insert tribe name here.
it's not political correctness. it's accuracy.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
People from America are Indians.

People from India are Hindus.

Indians are always from India. That poor Columbus thought he found India, so he named the people he encountered "Indians". He failed to realize that he had discovered a whole new continent, and refused to do so until his death.

As already pointed out by Q-Qubed, Hindus only represents a religious groups among Indians. There are at least 170 million Indian Muslims, making India the country with second most Muslim population.

I never refer to American "Indians" as Indians. Either I use the tribe names directly, or I call them Native Americans.


Aro, can you show us some of the politcal cartoons you drew?