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Let's let Firaxis know how we feel!
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32[b]Yes[/b], that way I could play with and against the Civs I, not Firaxis, choose.87.50%28[b]No[/b], I don't like to have the freedom to make my own choices. Let Firaxis decide how many (only 16!) and which Civs I can choose from to play with.9.38%3I don't have an opinion on this.3.13%1My most wanted Civ III civ which was missing from Civ II: the ARABS! -
Ummm...they do know how people feel on the issue. It isn't like that are totally out of touch."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd -
comming from a chieftan of this site No, I don't like to have the freedom to make my own choices. Let Firaxis decide how many (only 16!) and which Civs I can choose from to play with. is a rather harsh statement.
anyway... firaxis spent way too much time developing some extemely diverse, and animated civs. IMHO the time spent making different animations for different eras could have added a few more civs to the mix, but it's too late now.
you don't really want firaxis to push back civ3 for a year just so you can play as the Celts or Japanese do you?"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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I know. But it sure seemed like they were when I saw that button toggle Civ selector just like in Civ II in their Civ 3 "Player Set Up" screen shot. I mean, we've waited 10 years and we are still locked in to whatever Civs they provide in the standard, random map game? That's just unacceptable to me.Originally posted by Apocalypse
Ummm...they do know how people feel on the issue. It isn't like that are totally out of touch.My most wanted Civ III civ which was missing from Civ II: the ARABS!Comment
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No, but it really shouldn't require that. Look, they have already promised a full featured scenario editor, right? Presumably, even though they've given us NO INFO about it, its near ready to go.Originally posted by UberKruX
you don't really want firaxis to push back civ3 for a year just so you can play as the Celts or Japanese do you?
Well, how hard would it really be then to FULLY INTEGRATE IT with the "Player Set Up" for the standard, random map game?
All we would need is:
An infinitely expandable scroll menu or pull down menu INSTEAD of the rigid button toggle in the "Your Civ" selector window.
Have both the "Your Civ" selector window and the "Your Opponents" pull down menus include any Civ you have created with the editor in the list of selectable civs for the standard, random map game!
Provide either a means to customize the leader graphic in the editor OR provide a simpler GENERIC leader graphic to use for any CUSTOM CIV.
Do that and PRESTO! you have given long-suffering Civers the means to play with and against any Civ they please, regardless of which and how many Civs Firaxis happens to build into the game!
Now, how hard is that? Do you think that will take a year? I don't.My most wanted Civ III civ which was missing from Civ II: the ARABS!Comment
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MP Rules
as an avid MP player I dont care at all about the civ specific stuff , animated leaders and such. im fact it takes away from the game and shows how little they think of MP in civ 3 IMHO...
MP is all about your style of play and as such you should be able to name your civ any name , give your leader your name and name the cityd anything you want. Thats al lthe custom entries i want...GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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We weren't locked into the Civs they provided. It has always been customizable. You seem to be making very dangerous assumptions based on a limited amout of screenshots. This poll has no real value either. I've been out of the Civ community for a while, converting console gamers to PC gamers, and I'm appalled at how prevelent this has become. No one was ever like this before SMAC was released, minus a few people who were run out of the forums. Don't make such harsh judgements before you can played the game or there is hard information on the subject. As of yet, there is no real indication that it is impossible to have civs like China, the Vikings, etc in a random map game at the same time."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
"At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
"Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
"In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General LuddComment
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Re: MP Rules
I agree 1000%. My fear is that fundamental playability and fun has been sacrificed to accomodate completely superfluous fancy leader graphics. I could give a flying fig for "leaders" anyway. There is no need for personalized leaders for a civ spanning 6000 years. It's absurd. We ought to just have generic leader references like "King of France" or "President of America". There doesn't need to be a personality there. It adds NOTHING to the game. In fact, it makes it just plain silly. And when it is made the priority over fundamental advances in game customizability and play, fancy leader graphics are just downright GALLING!Originally posted by Rasputin
as an avid MP player I dont care at all about the civ specific stuff , animated leaders and such. im fact it takes away from the game and shows how little they think of MP in civ 3 IMHO...
MP is all about your style of play and as such you should be able to name your civ any name , give your leader your name and name the cityd anything you want. Thats al lthe custom entries i want...My most wanted Civ III civ which was missing from Civ II: the ARABS!Comment
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hey screw you. i love seeing Comrade KruX of the Roman Empire for eternity."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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and if u really care that much turn off the animations.
i'm sure you can.
using the tools you can replace them with still images.
make the image a black square if u want... i really dont care."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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I agree with this and I really wish Arator would go away, but don't start flaming.hey screw youComment
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Krux! Your cow just disappeared! Nooooooooooooooo................
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Hey, I like playing [insert my personal leader name of the moment] for all eternity too. But does that mean I want to look at the fancy leader graphic of Firaxis's choice for leaders of my opposing civs morphing and aging throught the game? NO! That just detracts from my enjoyment, because I live for 6000 game years, but Mao, Abe, etc. never did and never will! Get it?Originally posted by UberKruX
hey screw you. i love seeing Comrade KruX of the Roman Empire for eternity.My most wanted Civ III civ which was missing from Civ II: the ARABS!Comment
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Arator - you are clearly a minority here. You can turn them off, I'm sure. If you can't, then you just don't play the game. Stop whining.Comment
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Arator,
How do you know for serain you can't add more civs to the player setup menu?? You've been playing the beta haven't you. Damn you.
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