Custom Civs

[orange]

I'm upset that the game is shipping with only 16 Civs and none of them are new! I mean, alls they did was replace Sioux with Iroqious. Even CTP II had more civs than this!

And I'm guessing only 8 at a time can play? Man...what a let down

[Arator]

Originally posted by hetairoi22
Arator,
How do you know for serain you can't add more civs to the player setup menu?? You've been playing the beta haven't you. Damn you.

Check out this screenshot:

http://www.civ3.com/images/screenshots/playersetup.jpg

Note the "Your Civ" selector window. It's the same rigid, locked-in, built-in Civs ONLY set up we had in Civ II. There is no allowance made in this graphic for added custom civs. So, apparently, as in Civ II, you can't add custom civs to the playable mix in a standard, random map game. You can only, at best, hack text files and REPLACE the 16 built-in civs, up to the rigid limit of 16. This, by far, to me is the MOST DISAPPOINTING NON-IMPROVEMENT to this game. It is even a retrograde, as we now only have 16 civs we can replace as opposed to 21.

[Pythagoras]

Originally posted by Arator


Check out this screenshot:

http://www.civ3.com/images/screenshots/playersetup.jpg

Note the "Your Civ" selector window. It's the same rigid, locked-in, built-in Civs ONLY set up we had in Civ II. There is no allowance made in this graphic for added custom civs. So, apparently, as in Civ II, you can't add custom civs to the playable mix in a standard, random map game. You can only, at best, hack text files and REPLACE the 16 built-in civs, up to the rigid limit of 16. This, by far, to me is the MOST DISAPPOINTING NON-IMPROVEMENT to this game. It is even a retrograde, as we now only have 16 civs we can replace as opposed to 21.

Oh well. So what. You cant have everything you want, I dont care, I just want to play this game. Theres always gonna be something to comlain about, and I think the game will be awesome.

[Warm Beer]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
You seem to be making very dangerous assumptions based on a limited amout of screenshots

Very excellent point! At this time, unless specifically stated by Fraxis, we should look at the screenshots as excamples of what we can do, as opposed to what we can't.

[Arator]

Originally posted by Warm Beer


Very excellent point! At this time, unless specifically stated by Fraxis, we should look at the screenshots as excamples of what we can do, as opposed to what we can't.

Well, if I've made a bad assumption, I sure wish they'd disabuse me of it. Firaxis, what say you? SPEAK!

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Sabre2th
Krux! Your cow just disappeared! Nooooooooooooooo................

no, the old cow was just replaced with a new one, ME!



was that cow a CTP unit or something? why was it here? lol

[Arator]

Bump to get more votes!

[Apocalypse]

Firaxis can't go out and diffuse every rumor and false assumption. Be happy that they actually post at message boards.

[Warm Beer]

Originally posted by Arator
Bump to get more votes!

I don't know if I am the only one, but I didn't vote in the poll because the options are completely loaded: Me, Me, Me!; I cant think for myself; and I have no opinion.

My vote would be: "Yes- Customization and flexablility is a good thing in a game," but I don't see that option.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Down with freedom!!!

This has got to be one of the most slanted polls I've ever seen.

Anyway, Firaxias said they've included an editor that will allow you to edit to your hearts desire, so stop your damn whining.

[Brent]

Hey, I'm with Arator 99%. He is the Brave and Fearless Leader of the Underground Movement! So what if he's a tad overzealous?

Leader animations were a nice thought, just like Dinosaurs was, but in the end should have been just a thought.

I suppose it Is possible that the screenshot in question is just one option.

By the way, I Did vote in the poll.

[Edward]

Add my name to the "minority" in agreement with Arator.

I found the Civ2 animated heralds to be awkward and annoying. ('Though I found the Civ1 leaders with smiles and frowns to be somewhat amusing. Perhaps Civ3 leaders will be more like this.)

As others have pointed out: Animated leaders, love 'em or hate 'em, who cares 'cause you can just turn them off.

However, Firaxias's huge effort into animation at the (totally assumed - no evidence) cost of effort elsewhere in the game is disconcerting. Like Rasputin, I'm more concerned with game play than fancy graphics.

So far Firaxias has been very adamant about how customizable Civ3 will be. I'm hoping it will be possible to customize the civs. I'll have to agree that it would be asking a bit much of players to have to rename some files to access civs other than the 16 that one currently has in their queue. As Apocalypse and Warm Beer note, Firaxias MIGHT make it easy to add more civs to a (longer than 16) list to choose from.

The fact that a game can only have 8 civs is IMHO the most disappointing fact in this area. My guess is that this was necessary so they could implement their "circle of leader heads" to show diplomatic relations via colored lines. I was really hoping to be able to play with more active civs in a single game.