AUSG101 - Spaceship Team DAR 3

[Rhothaerill]

This is the DAR (“during action report”) thread for the third turn block of 30 turns (1250bc – 550bc) for the spaceship team. Please post your DAR of the next 30 turns, including thoughts of why you did what you did in the game, along with a screenshot at 550bc and a savegame at 550bc. Please name your save with your nickname, team name, and the time (i.e. rhoth-spaceship-550bc).

Team registry:

alexman
ZargonX
vmxa1
Tarquinius
Mountain Sage
Defcon5
Makahlua

Current Voting (by spaceship team)

alexman: 3
ZargonX: 1

Total votes: 4 of 7

[vmxa1]

I did not get to look at all of our games, as I was out most of yesterday, so great job Alexman. I will try to do a respectable job with your start.

[vmxa1]

Ok I got my main PC back again with one 512MB stick of mem replaced. So I will see if that cures my problems. I had to download this for this pc. So far mem/vid and sound card replaced, not a good sign.

[alexman]

Summary
Continued expanding and getting ready for first strike against neighbor. In 550, Military is positioned to declare war on Japan immediately. Suicide galley discovered new continent, yielding lots of gold and two scientific civs to boost tech rate. We are already in the Middle ages.

Expansion
After Monarchy, Mecca became a 4-turn Settler pump. Damascus and Medina continued to pump Workers every 2 turns. 9 cities in the first (4) RCP ring. No rush expanding outwards because we're planning to get more room by force. Our empire in 550 BC: 19 Cities (+1 settler), 62 polulation, 31 Workers.

The tech race
Continued gifting all technologies and this block of turns it finally paid off: We got Literature, Construction, Philosophy, Code of Laws, and Map Making from the AI. Purposly delayed getting Currency to give a chance for the AI to get Construction (and to save gold for our upgrades). Entered Middle Ages in 590 BC. Babylon and Black Land have Feudalism and Monotheism (their free techs), so we are researching Engineering.

Military
Gradually upgraded all Warriors to Swordsmen and started building Horsemen. Our worker force (29 native plus 2 slaves) converted many forests into horsemen. Our army in 550 BC: 15 Swordsmen, 11 Horsemen, 4 Spearmen

Infrastructure
Many Temples, 3 Barracks, 3 granaries, Forbidden Palace is half-way done. Building Courthouses after Temples in cities outside first RCP ring. Starting to build Libraries in non-barracks, non-Granary first-ring cities.

Exploration
Got extremely lucky with one of our two suicide galleys, which survived three turns in the ocean, and sank on the fourth, but only after being seen by India. India knew writing and had contacts with Babylon and Black land. That continent was backwards (India didn't know Masonry, Babylon didn't know Alphabet), but they had some gold. We quickly brought them up-to-date in tech so that they can help in our fast spaceship quest. After we capture the Great Lighthouse in Kyoto, we will build more suicide galleys to find the rest of the civs.

Future plans
Conquer Japan with Swordsman, keeping horsemen as a reserve and military police. Japan has Great Lighthouse, so after we conquer Kyoto, send more galleys to discover more civilizations. Move Palace to former Japan. After we get Chivalry (probably from the AI), attack America with Ansars, and get GA with two cores set up. We will have to delay our scientific progress to save some gold for Horseman upgrades, but we will use that period to build Libraries.

Attached is a zip with the timeline and the save.

[alexman]

Here's a screenshot, although I think we're past the point where a screenshot can tell the story.

[Jaybe]

alexman, where do the curvy borders come from? I cannot find it anywhere in the last year of files at Poly (searching for "border").

Just never mind.... Found it at Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION III > Civ3 - Creation & Customization > Graphics Modpacks > New "curved" borders

[Mountain Sage]

My post (it's hard after Alexman's...)

2150 BC – 550 BC

Our goals: rexxing and start the military build-up.
By 550 BC our rexxing is over: 19 cities. We will add more cities after the Japanese-Americans wars. Next goal: bringing Mecca and Damascus to size 12 (Wonders).
Military build-up: 1st pruning war (Edo, Osaka, Kagoshima vs. Japan) with upgraded Warriors.
2nd pruning war (Miami, SFrancisco, Washington, Philadelphia vs. America + Oracle) with Swordsmen + Horsemen.
Start of the wars: after Republic (1 Spearman/city left); al warriors upgraded (1’120 gold needed, 506 so far). This is (also) why we are going for the Glibrary.

1250 BC: Monarchy in 10 turns; +2 gold/turn; 9 cities.
1225 BC: Warrior in Mecca, Worker in Baghdad, Warrior in Kufah.
1200 BC: Temple in Basra, Barbs encampment destroyed (+25 gold); Fustat founded.
1175 BC: Damascus temple, our Palace is more beautiful... Hippo founded south of the isthmus. Traded Polytheism with the Americans for Map Making and World Map, offered it to Japan (now Polite) and for 27 gold and World Map with Carthage.
1125 BC: Mecca Warrior.
1075 BC: Damascus Warrior, Najran and Kufah Settler, Basra Warrior.
1050 BC: Medina Settler. The Great City of Barad-Dur completed the Pyramids.
1025 BC: Monarchy. Literature in 19 turns.
1000 BC: Mecca Settler. Oracle as pre-built to the GLibrary. Aden founded.
975 BC: Baghdad and Basra Warrior. Khurash Temple. Traded Monarchy with America for Code of Laws and 27 gold. 3 embassies for 118 gold.
950 BC: Road to Spices completed.
925 BC: Yamama founded.
900 BC: Medina Settler. Damascus Galley. Khurasan Warrior.
875 BC: Muscat founded.
850 BC: Medina, Baghdad Warrior.
825 BC: Najran builds Galley. The American finished the Oracle. Mansura founded.
800 BC: Kufah Settler, Fustat Worker.
775 BC: Bukhara founded. Traded Monarchy for 25 gold and World Map with Carthage.
750 BC: Aleppo founded.
730 BC: Khurasan and Medina build Settler. Fez founded.
710 BC: Contact with the Germans (SW). They are isolated. Traded Alphabet for 48 gold.
690 BC: Aden produced a Galley (will go E). Shiraz founded.
650 BC: the Black City of Isengard completed the Colossus.
610 BC: Merw built.
570 BC: our NW Galley was lost in a tempest.
I might have missed to mention some Warriors built.

13 Workers, 28 Warriors, 4 Spearmen, 2 Galleys.
506 gold +14/turn. Republic in 17 rounds. GLibrary in 13 rounds.
19 cities. America 10, Carthage 9, Japan 7, Germany 6.
2 techs advance vs. the Americans (closest).
World ranking: 1st.

[Mountain Sage]

And the pic:

[vmxa1]

Well I was tempted to not post anything after seeing Alexman run. I then figured everyone could use a laugh, so here it is:

1225 Mecca starts archer, Kufah starts warrior
1240 Medina starts settler. Najran starts temple
Basra starts barracks (this is becaus I figued
Uncle Sam would attack here eventually).
Found Aden after escort busted the camp.
I really need the 25 gold.

Ok here is the reason I posted this pile of crud. I had the blocker in place and saw Carthage send a settler team out and get killed by a barb horseman. I had the conscripted warrior attack and kill the 1 hp barb. I figured it would come after him anyway.

1175 Kufah starts temple, conscript bust camp
1150 Mecca starts settler, Damascus start colossus
Medina switch to temple
1075 start Philosophy at 60% Trade for Map
1025 switch to galley Damascus, Najran start colossus
Mecca start Horse, Kufah start Horse
Medina start settler
1000 Khurasan start barracks
925 Found Yamama and start temple, research Code of
Laws
900 Damascus start worker upgraded a warrior
850 start Lighthouse in Damascus
825 found Muslot
730 start barracks in Anjar
690 Medina start FP
670 found Mansura, researching Lit
650 tradeMonarch for cash to Abe and Carth
630 killed settler team with swordsman (Japans)
near Mansura. I could not pass this up and they
several cities near that the horses can pillage.

I started to have fun here and realized I had gone too many turns. I had made peace with out doing anything other than pillage.

[vmxa1]

Whoops forgot to name it properly:

[ZargonX]

Well, didn't get contact with the other continent like Alexman, but I did start to deal with the Japan problem...

1175: Traded Poly to Carth. for MM + WM + 20 g.
-Traded Poly to US for WM.
-Mecca starts settler.
-Damascus starts galley
-Narjan starts warrior
-Khurzan starts horse.
1100:
-We learn Literacy!
-Narjan switches to harbor.
1075:
-Basra starts a granary
-The Black Land builds the Pyramids
1050:
-Mecca starts a horse.
1000:
-Khur starts a worker.
-Med starts a settler
-Kuf starts a temple.
950:
-Mecca starts a horse.
-Fust starts a temple.
925:
-I traded Monarchy to someone (stupid lousy notes...) for COL + WM + 20g
-Damascus starts the Collosus
-Kuf starts a horse
-Khur starts a granary
-Aden is founded
875:
-Spices are hooked up!
-Mec starts the Hanging Gardens as a prebuild.
-Med starts a horse
-Anj starts a spear
775:
-the US builds the Oracle
-Med starts a library
-Yammama founded
-Narj starts a warrior
730:
-Sell COL to the stupid Japanese for 30g +WM
710:
-Kuf starts a library
-Bas starts a library
-Sell Lit to (someone...) for 30g and WM
690:
-Nar starts a temple
-Aden starts a temple
650:
-Sell Lit to Carth. for 20g and a WM
-Also sell them Mon for the low, low price of 8g
-Oh, I also invade Japan with a division of horses and swordsmen. Edo is taken.
630:
-Ans starts a courthouse.
-Yam starts a temple
610:
-The Black land builds the Collosus.
-Damascus switches to the Great Lit.
570:
-Osaka captured. Forces prepare to regroup for the thrust to Tokyo.

[ZargonX]

And the save...

550 BC

[ZargonX]

So, I apologize for the poor quality of my notes... I tend to get a little into the game and forget to write down a lot of important deatails Some things that happened that I didn't bother to date:

-Lost my exploration galley to a storm of 3 barb galleys in 2 turns.
-Carthage is blocked off at the chokepoint, keeping us nicely separated.
-The Japan invasion was mostly because they kept falling behind in tech and weren't doing me much good, and Chiv isn't that far away in the grand scheme of things. At the rate the invasion is going, the 6 swords and 3 horses available should easily be able to take Kyoto, and then either sue for peace or continue onwards...
-Switched to Monarchy at some point in there, too

[ZargonX]

And a screenshot...

[Mountain Sage]

A question of strategy for our team:

Are we going to wipe out Japan (and later America and Carthage) or are we keeping some cities of them as 'Vassal States'?

Subsidiary question: where shall we put our Palace and FP?