AU208: Total Eternal Forever War - Reports and Comments

[Arrian]

One major problem, though:

I used my 1 and only leader on the Forbidden... not in a great spot (pretty good, though), expecting that I'd get another relatively soon (I had a decent number of elite immortals). The next turn, somebody else build the GL.

No Great Library. OUCH. So yeah, I'm a little behind in tech. Plus, I know just about everyone else now, meaning I had to declare war on all of them. I couldn't afford to even buy any tech.

On the other hand, I have control of my continent and I have a pretty decent FP.

This one could be ugly, but I'm hoping I can scratch and claw my way to parity by the industrial age.

-Arrian

[Dominae]

Speak of the Devil!

The turn after the previous screenshot:

[Theseus]

Man, I am so jealous... my game is a night-... uh, difficult. Bedtime, and dream of dead Caesars.

[Dominae]

Enough of me, more about you guys:

Panzer32: Tough break. Hope you'll try again. I believe the Carthaginians are weaker than I had originally thought, because even though their UU is amazing against the AI, you really need units fast in this game. Then again, you're not dependent on a Strategic resource to build your Mercs., so that should help here.

Theseus: Yup, I'm at Emperor. This means two things: 1) the AI starts with more units, and so the inevitable initial rush is more difficult to handle, 2) the AI researches better, which is even worse than usual, since you'll never get to benefit from the increased tech speed. I'm expecting this second point to be a real killer once one gets on the world stage.

Arrian: Looking good! That's really really annoying about the Great Library, though. You might have to turn this into a super-builder game just to keep up technologically! Or, you could use the fact that your UU will not be obsolete for quite some time and just keep conquering. I have no idea where the other civs are, so maybe this second option is not feasible (i.e. the other continent is not within safe Galley distance).


Dominae

[Arrian]

Dominae,

I'm going super builder, that's for sure. I was hoping to rename more units than just the "Sackers of Salamanca" (though it was neat to get a Leader from nailing the enemy capitol).

Other people are starting the big medieval wonders and I just made the switch to Monarch... I'm still in ancient times.

COME GIT SUM!

-Arrian

[Theseus]

Originally posted by Dominae
Theseus: Yup, I'm at Emperor. This means two things: 1) the AI starts with more units, and so the inevitable initial rush is more difficult to handle, 2) the AI researches better, which is even worse than usual, since you'll never get to benefit from the increased tech speed. I'm expecting this second point to be a real killer once one gets on the world stage.

To quote Morpheus:

"Here they co-ome."

The Mounted Warriors, that is.

Sh*t. Been dreading it...
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Re research, I've never really been comfortable with the come-from-behind thing. Given this situation, I finally realize how it is like the 'drafting' that race-car and bicycle riders do... pretty cool.

So, can I survive and draft my way to feudalism?

My guess is I'll have to play this 2-3 times to get it right.

Thanks alexman, for setting this up... I've been *way* to inside the comfort zone for a while.

[Arrian]

I think my game is gonna hinge around 2 things:

Adam Smiths

A successful invasion of an island nation + leader to move my palace. The sooner the better.

-Arrian

[Panzer32]

AU 208 Log:

Second try. Regent Carthaginians.

Research Bronze working first this time.

3350bc: Close call!! Iroquois scout shows up for a second then leaves Next turn, they appear for good. Get CB and pottery from them before I declare war.

3050bc: BW done, go for WC.

2950bc: First NM done; I will probably survive longer than the first time.

2550bc: I have 2 cities now, making NMs. One warrior up by the Iroquois to see what havoc it can cause... at least it takes the pressure off my cities.

2390bc: Pilliage Iroquois furs with my warrior.

2350bc: WC researched; going for writing at 40 turns.

2310bc: Pilliaging warrior destroyed, but it takes down one other warrior with it. Two NMs starts north...

1625bc: Golden age!! Lots of extra shield because my main tile is irrigated plains!

1400bc: Contact with Rome (finally... I could even see inside their borders with culture, but no contact!). Sending 3 NM's to pilliage; still have 6 NMs for homeland defence plus one for keeping the Iroqois in check. Get Iron Working, The wheel, and mysticism for GPT. mwahaha

1375bc: Fourth city founded. See pic for my tight squeezed empire.

[Panzer32]

1200bc: Rome attacks NM with legionary. GA for Rome. Will start on archer rush plan to at least deny them outlying cities.

1125bc: GA ended. Finish writing, start on lit. Start prebuild for GL. Fighting a defensive war before I get Archers.

875bc: First Legionary attacks city; NM falls. \

825bc: Worthy to note: wounded archer fends off reg legionary!

570bc: First Archer rush pary of 7 archers and 3 NMs heads off to Roman cities...

490bc: Archer rush kills First Roman city... others will surely follow

450bc: Contact with English Galley. Another civ to declare war on...

390bc: Next target for the PanzerArcher stack of doom....... Antium!!! And Panzer32 takes Antium with minimal archer casualties

170bc: After reinforcements arrive, Virconium becomes the next victim of the ASOD (archer SOD). After losing two archers, a third takes the city victoriously and burns it to the ground!!

150bc: Last turn of play for tonight. See pic for current empire. Archer rushing SOD in top right. Note palace prebuild for GLib. I hope I get a Gleader soon... I've won at least 8 elite battles

[ZargonX]

Start the game... build a warrior... go 4 steps just in time to see the Iriquios scout pop the hut in front of me, giving them a free city... city defended by only a scout, in a total war scenario... you do the math

[DaveMcW]

Since I'm playing on deity, I had no chance to for a surgical strike on my neighbors before they rushed me.

4000BC: Build at the start
3550BC: Barracks in Carthage
3050BC: Trade Masonry to Rome for Bronze Working
2800BC: Golden Age begins
2670BC: Great Leader
2550BC: Pyramids
2150BC: Discover Mathematics
2030BC: Trade Mathematics to Iroquois for Wheel, Warrior Code, Ceremonial Burial, Iron Working, Mysticism
1600BC: Discover Writing
1225BC: Great Leader
1125BC: Trade Mathematics to England for World Map, Pottery, and 176 gold
1025BC: Discover Literature
1000BC: Great Library

My army is currently 9 Mercenaries and 12 catapults. The Carthaginian, Roman, and Iroquois GAs are over.

[vmxa1]

Man it looks like you guys are having fun. I have two RPG's going right now, but I am enjoying the reports.
Dom you are making me want to play. Nah, two irons in the fire is more than enough.
What does the other civs lands look like as China is nothing but dirt, don't they get any rain?

[Nakar Gabab]

EDIT: Settings were Regent (my usual level, probably a good challenge in TW), Aztecs, AU Mod, all default settings except Restart AI Civs OFF.

First, a disclaimer: I despise Restart AI Civs. I've hated it since it first came into play and always turn it off. As you'll see, perhaps this time I shouldn't have.

I must confess to a bit of frustration in my abortive attempt at China. They just... kept... coming! Ironically, I rushed Rome before I had even the slightest idea what they were up to in the first game.

I can't claim to be so naive the second time around, when I went to my original strategy. If you can't take Legions and MWs, hit 'em before they HAVE Legions and MWs...

[Nakar Gabab]

And #2...

I dunno if I should call this fair, but hey, it's not my fault their cities on hills (I hate you Alexman; no really ) fell to a Jaggie rush. I only had two on Rome and three on Salamanca; you snooze, you lose.

I'm wondering what happens next, though...

[vmxa1]

Well I had two hours that I could not spend on my other games so I cranked up this thing. I did not have PTW installed after the game I DL the other day so I went with that.
Did China, I drop all win conditions except Dom and Conq as usual. Drop down to MOnarch per warings.
Sent out warrior south I guess and found hut and got a settler, so I guess I was already behind.
2350bc bumped into Rome, made a trade and declared war, I love it.
2270 bc have three cities after Canton (on a hill as I know Rome will want to come after it) and Vet archer got first blood. A warrior/Archer team is coming.
I have walls in Canton. Roman 3 dead so far.
2110 Only reg archer I had make vet.
1870 I sent two archer vets to Rome, legions got one and the other got the legion. They sent more legions and got the archer, I screwed up, I could have at least pillage before that one got killed. Now Rome is wasting their GA (I hope).