Hut pattern

[Deity Dude]

I know what the special resources pattern looks like - basically a swastika - but what does the hut pattern look like, or the shield pattern...

If there's a previous thread please point me to it if its too long to go into here. I looked in the archives under hut and couldn't find anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Smash]

use map editor and make a small all plains or forest.Anything cept grass.

[airdrik]

the grassland sheild pattern lookes something like this:

SnSnSnSnSn
nSnSnSnSnS
nSnSnSnSnS
SnSnSnSnSn
SnSnSnSnSn
nSnSnSnSnS

tilted to the terrain, where S indicates grassland sheild, and bold is where a special is (I believe, I'm doing this from memory). The pattern of specials is repeated with a 2 or 3 tile break in bands about 3-4 tiles apart, and reversed.
[This message has been edited by airdrik (edited April 09, 2001).]

[Eli]

I think that your specials are incorrect there.

[Blaupanzer]

We have had a discussion of hut patterns before. They come in the form of an oblong box if I recall. Turn on the cheat in a game you are not really going to play. It's really clear.

[John-SJ]

Yes, wouldn't the specials be something like:


----S----
-------S-
-----C---
---S-----
------S--

Where 'S' is a special, 'C' is a perfect city location with access to 4 specials.

John-SJ

(Sorry, don't recall the hut pattern off hand.)

[Ming]

Yeah... just use your map editor and create a world with all land. The basic pattern is easy to spot, four to a pattern. Then see how they all connect, and you can get pretty good at knowing where all the huts are.

But there is nothing worse than finding a one square ocean where a hut should be

[Laertes]

quote: Originally posted by Ming on 04-09-2001 10:55 PM But there is nothing worse than finding a one square ocean where a hut should be

Yes there is - I always find the top corner of the pattern on my southern coast, with three huts submerged. Grrr

[Scouse Gits]

Useful tip -- Where there's a hut there's a Special! (two squares orthogonally) and if you can't see it - it is still there, but hidden on Grass

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[towigg]

In order to reveal the shield or the special, how would you need to improve the land: Any other land type to grassland to get the shield, and grassland to some other land type to get the special? Thanks.

[Marquis de Sodaq]

quote: Originally posted by towigg on 04-10-2001 03:56 PM In order to reveal the shield or the special, how would you need to improve the land: Any other land type to grassland to get the shield, and grassland to some other land type to get the special? Thanks.

Bingo! Grassland is the only terrain type that does not have a special. It is also the only one that instead has the shield bonus. Change one to the other, et voila! Experiment in your map editor to see what Scouse Gits talks about with the 2 square special/hut relation.



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[Scouse Gits]

towigg -- you haven't quite got it a special is on a square - or not - so you can never turn say forest to grass and then to silk -- what I meant was that if there is no visible special in any of the four squares two away orthogonally from a hut one of the grass squares in one of these four positions WILL be a special - which one can often be deduced from the special pattern -- IMHO these are just about the only squares it is worth thinking about terraforming in the early game (by terraforming I mean 'M'ing into forest in the hope of detecting silk or pheasant)

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"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[Deity Dude]

Thanks everyone this is very helpful.

P.S. Am I the only one here who doesn't know the meaning of "orthogonally"

[Taurus]

quote: Originally posted by Deity Dude on 04-10-2001 05:56 PM Thanks everyone this is very helpful. P.S. Am I the only one here who doesn't know the meaning of "orthogonally"

Orthogonally is basicly a fancy word for perpendicular, although it has other mathimatical uses too.

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[Blaupanzer]

quote: Originally posted by John-SJ on 04-09-2001 10:51 PM Yes, wouldn't the specials be something like: ----S---- -------S- -----C--- ---S----- ------S-- Where 'S' is a special, 'C' is a perfect city location with access to 4 specials.

Middle two Ss are one off. Top middle goes one to the right, bottom middle, one to the left. Hence the "swastika pattern" many mention.