A guide to ICS

[Scouse Gits]

If you have a string of cities along a coastline - every other square apart - when the barb boat is spotted you can move out your units to the intermediate squares so they have no place to land. Perhaps Civ 3 should have barb marines.
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SG (2)

[jpk]

This is a newbie to ICS post. Feel free to snicker. After that I would appreciate advice.

1. Should a player spend any time looking for a starting location or should a player found two cities as soon as possible.

2. If there are no trade squares (Whales, rivers, etc.) should a player build a road square prior to founding a city.

Thank you.

[Scouse Gits]

I don't mind spending a few turns looking around. It is infuriating to find a whale just outside your capital's city limit. During this time I hope to open a couple of huts for "non" units. The risk is finding scrolls of wisdom you don't want at that time. Whilst starting techs don't alter your research rate any tech from a hut does slow you down - even before the first city is founded.

I only build roads after about four cities.

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SG (2)

[kcbob]

Well, I'm trying this out in my latest game and it is actually working!!! Thank you so much Dave! I thought I was forever going to be locked in the wonderful world of OCC. Now I have an alternative again.

But, I'm not building as close together as I would think the classic ICS calls for. My first four cities were about 2 or 3 hexs (how do you pluricate hex?) but the later ones are more like 5 or 6 apart. Oh, well. The non-building improvements is the key.

BTW, isn't it amazing how someone who learns a foreign language does NOT learn the bad habits? It drives me crazy when someone says "between he and I".

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[Kaak]

Grrr...like we didn't have enough newbies in the league already straight ICSing...For those of you who do this, you better get a new strategy before you play someone like eyes or myself, or you will get killed. I was doing this before it had a name, and I know it's weaknesses.

If you aren't good, it won't save you...

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Kaak
Tribe of the Divine

To fail to try is the only true failure...

[Sten Sture]

tool

[DaveV]

quote: Originally posted by Kaak on 08-21-2000 10:36 PM For those of you who do this, you better get a new strategy before you play someone like eyes or myself, or you will get killed. I was doing this before it had a name, and I know it's weaknesses.

Kaak - any chance of you or Eyes sharing some of your techniques for fighting ICS? We had a thread here quite a while back (started by Eyes, as I recall ) about ways to combat ICS. I didn't see anything there that convinced me to stop sleazing...

[civnewbielord]

I apologize for my stupidity, but what does OCC mean?

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"By bashing a steal chain on your head, I was showing that I had integrity." Kurt Angle, WWF wrestler

[Scouse Gits]

The opposite of ICS --
OCC = One City Challenge - get to AC first with only one city ever!
Paul (and helpers) have written a definitive document colloquially known as the Paulicy that is invaluable...


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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor

[Shadowstrike]

Speaking of OCC, has anyone ever tried an OCC win via world conquest? Better make on of those... real challenge as you must destroy, not capture every enemy city.

[Scouse Gits]

I may have been dreaming, but didn't ming and/or rah and/or xin recently conquer the world with NO cities at any time?

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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor

[rah]

No, Ming and I were doing the nomad challange, which the limitation was that you couldn't build a city or get one from a hut. All your cities had to come through conquest.
I accomplished both ends of the challange in the same game. I launched a ship and finished the last civ off while it was in flight.

[DaveV]

Shadowstrike - I started, but didn't finish, an OCCC (one city conquest challenge ). I think it would be pretty easy. Play like a regular OCC, but build diplomats early and bribe lots of NONE units. Go for the Communism tech instead of spaceship techs and build lots of spies (one per turn should be manageable). Use them to poison water supplies to reduce pop in the target cities, then tear down walls at size one. Attack with a decent offensive unit; no more city. Repeat until no more cities are left.

[SCG]

quote: <font size=1>Originally posted by Shadowstrike on 08-23-2000 09:31 AM</font> Speaking of OCC, has anyone ever tried an OCC win via world conquest? Better make on of those... real challenge as you must destroy, not capture every enemy city.

Close, SG1, it was vik. [url=http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum3/HTML/001188.html?date=00:47]World Conquered - 750bc - No Cities, http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum3/HT...tml?date=00:47

Edit: I seem to be fighting with links today
[This message has been edited by SCG (edited August 23, 2000).]

[cbn]

Thanks DaveV

I had never before seen ICS explained so clearly. I won my last few SP deity games using a SSC perfectionist style but thought this ICS could be powerful tool in combination with one or two large cities.

Well wow--I am in the mid 1800s (small world, deity, raging hoards) running Fundy and could wipe the two remaining AI off the earth in about 10 turns (they tuck cities in all sorts of places) . using this style there are units everywhere supported by those little size 2 and 3 cities while my two large cities (size 15+) build wonders and improvements.

My only complaint is that managing so many cities and units is a bit of a pain - I think to have shorter games I will try OCC.