You CAN build canals!

[Scouse Gits]

Wow - I have just thought - how about a 'Maginot Line' comprised of vet Battleships strung across a contintent?!!


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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor

[Ming]

Scouse Gits... Another great insight.

Just think, a line of battle ships that can't be attacked by ground units. That's almost better than a row of fortresses on mountains.
(At least until cruise missiles start flying )

You just have to love all the bugs in the game...

[DaveV]

Ming and SG1 - can grounded ships not be attacked by ground units? Then a trireme would be enough, maybe stacked with a warrior to prevent bribery. Hmmm...

[Tom DeMille]

I just built a couple of cities and disbanded them after fortifying a destroyer in each. I then added a barbarian unit right beside them from the cheat menu.

The barbarian unit was able to attack them (after announcing that the ship was caught in port).

[DaveV]

Tom - thanks for checking that out. As much as people complain about the bugs in Civ, the programmers got it right much more often than not.

[Ming]

Yeah... they got it right, a ship can be just sitting there in the middle of land

Well, that's good to know that a ship in this situation can be attacked by ground units. Thanks for running the test. I was just picturing this row of ships on land...

[Scouse Gits]

Yes, but. I just trialled an inland BB versus assorted archers et al - it seems to have the same attack - ie they die quickly - and comparable defence - no visible dints after repeated ancient unit assault - despite the 'Ship in port' message - further I tested the city chain - created inland naval vessel, built city next door - moved vessel into city - works!
If someone can quantify the attack & defence poperties of inland naval units that would be good?
I guess we have to add this to the 'cheat list' now before we get to use it in anger - sigh!!


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[DaveV]

SG1 - grounded ships should attack at full strength. According to the manual, ships "in port" have their firepower reduced to 1, and the attacker's firepower is doubled. So on defense, a BB (battleship) is effectively 12 def, 2 HP, 1 FP, or about 33% better than a mech inf.

Edited for typo.
[This message has been edited by DaveV (edited May 24, 2000).]

[Scouse Gits]

Thanks DaveV - how about this one?
Do 'Vessels in port' benefit from terrain advantages?


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Scouse Git[1]

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[DaveV]

SG1 - I don't know what the effects of terrain are, but maybe some ambitious person could take upon himself to run a quick test...