Civil War in Multiplayer

[Alexander's Horse]

Has anyone ever seen a civil war triggered in multiplayer?

In Single player its triggered when you capture the capital of the largest civ (as measured by the PG). The civ splits into 2 civs.

Someone suggested to me you can't get a civil war in multiplayer. Can someone confirm this with an authoritative source?

[Ming]

Never seen it... and I think it was discussed a ways back that it can't happen to a human player... However, no proof

[Alexander's Horse]

I think I have the proof now

[Makeo]

don't they also have to have less than 1000gc otherwise the cap is moved.

[Alexander's Horse]

Damn annoying when they move their cap like that

[finbar]

I've never seen it in MP. I suspect it's exclusive to SP. I've seen the civ leading the PG split, I've seen the civ coming second on the PG split.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Makeo
don't they also have to have less than 1000gc otherwise the cap is moved.

I've seen civs with squillions in their treasury split.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by finbar
I've never seen it in MP. I suspect it's exclusive to SP. I've seen the civ leading the PG split, I've seen the civ coming second on the PG split.

Really - never seen that or the high gold civil war. Could it be a civ for Mac thing?

I know there have to be slots available for a civil war to occur i.e. no more than 7 civs in the game.

[Frank Johnson]

Hm I though only a democracy could recolcate its capital with gold.

I also remember hearing that its easier to break up a communism, monarchy, despoitsm than a republic, democracy etc.....

However I lost my capital in one game, playing the equivilent of a fundamentalism, and I didn't get split. There was room for a civ, and don't believe I had 1000 G sitting around either.....I wasn't the 1st or even 2nd most powerful, so....I can't say if I was at risk or not. I do know my fundy kept going quite fine without a capital.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Really - never seen that or the high gold civil war. Could it be a civ for Mac thing?

I don't think it's a Mac-specific thing. Civ splitting in SP has been batted around in these forums for years. For every theory there's a counter theory. When I'm bored during the day, I play some SP. Whenever I cause a civ to split, I make a point of saving the game to reload it to check the PG. The split civ has always been first or second on the PG, I have always been below it on the PG, and a treasury balance hasn't entered into it.

Of course we know that the PG doesn't necessarily reflect population. It may be that population is a key. Next time it happens I'll check for that.

The problem is there's no reference to civ splitting in the manual. Or in my Strategy Guide, for that matter, which is a surprise.

I know there have to be slots available for a civil war to occur i.e. no more than 7 civs in the game.

A civ has to have disappeared from the game - freeing up a colour - for it to occur. If you start a game with, say, only 4 civs selected, the split civ can't pick up a colour that wasn't selected at the outset. For the purposes of that game, those colours don't exist.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by finbar


A civ has to have disappeared from the game - freeing up a colour - for it to occur. If you start a game with, say, only 4 civs selected, the split civ can't pick up a colour that wasn't selected at the outset. For the purposes of that game, those colours don't exist.

That bit can't be right - at least in SP - when I split the civ I'm thinking of, dark blue appears and that colour has never been in the game, giving a total of 5 civs in a game where only 4 were originally selected.

Don't ask me to post a save or that other thing might kick off again

[finbar]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
That bit can't be right - at least in SP - when I split the civ I'm thinking of, dark blue appears and that colour has never been in the game, giving a total of 5 civs in a game where only 4 were originally selected.

Never seen it in SP.

Don't ask me to post a save or that other thing might kick off again

[Alexander's Horse]

I've seen civs split up to a total of 7 in SP regardless of how many civs started in the game.

I know this because my favorite SP strat was to cash up - take the ai civ capital triggering civil war and then buy all their cities. Repeat this process until I had conquered the world, leaving one little city, preferably on an island with no port whilst I maxed out my score

[finbar]

Mmmm. Upon reflection, you're probably right. It occurred to me that my SP games are always with 7 civs. For the challenge, y'see.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by finbar
Mmmm. Upon reflection, you're probably right. It occurred to me that my SP games are always with 7 civs. For the challenge, y'see.

I play 7 civs too but you usually only get 4 decent ai ones and 2 mini civs.