Lebensraum- 1939 PBEM Test

[techumseh]

And the French had one as well.

[Case]

and the Germans had a half finished one

[techumseh]

Both the Germans and Italians started construction/conversion of a carrier during the war, so allowing them to research carriers would be historical. However both Britain and France started the war with carriers.

[David Floyd]

and the Germans had a half finished one

Ya, the Graf Zeppelin, and they started on the Peter Strasser also I believe. As neither were used, I personally don't think they should be represented.

Same with the French carrier (it's name escapes me right now).

The British carriers, though, played a major part in the war, in terms of getting sunk by U-Boats, convoy escorts, transporting aircraft, and very notably the attack on Taranto which disabled 3 Italian BBs, so I think they should be represented.

Personally, I think events should trigger some sort of escort carrier midway through, probably starting in 1942, as those were vital in the Battle of the Atlantic.

[Darius871]

Ya, the Graf Zeppelin, and they started on the Peter Strasser also I believe. As neither were used, I personally don't think they should be represented.

Same with the French carrier (it's name escapes me right now).

However this scenario does seem to have an alternate history context, so maybe they still could be included.

[Caspian]

Who's turn is it anyway?

[Pavlov]

ANZAC

[klesh]

So nice to see all this activity! Give me a minute here to address the questions...

-FMK.

[klesh]

Originally posted by The ANZAC
Should my first turn as France be happening in October, 1939

France's turn is right before Germany's, but since this scenario starts with Germany (halfway through the september round of turns), France's first turn doesnt happen untill October. Tried to make this clear on my first post.




Also, everyone experiencing disorder:
I have gone though and lowered the upkeep costs of all buildings, therefore freeing up more revenue to be set for luxuries at thet start fo the game. Already went trough all the civs and fiddled with each. That should solve the problems for the release version. For now, you'll just have to deal with it for the first few turns.
Dowload these rules.txt, to be sure you are dealing with the latest file.

Originally posted by Case
I agree totally with the calls to increase naval movement. While you're at it, replace the Pocket Battleship graphic - Pocket Batleships only had two turrents

lol, I just picked one that looked cool. You, Scott and Anzac are the big ship guys, right? Set me up with what you favour.


RE: Carriers.
I will give the British and French the ability to build carriers, though not the progress techs leading to them. Those would open the entire naval tree for them. France will receive one carrier and the British 3. Now, where shall they go?

Originally posted by Case
BTW, this is a bit geeky, but you're using Bren Carriers the wrong way. Historically, these were issued to British infantry battalions for the purposes of carrying the heavy weapons (machine guns and mortars) and for scouting. They were never widely used as APCs, and British troops generally traveled in trucks.

Yes, it is merely a 'Universal Carrier' as termed by the army. Certainly not very good as an APC, as it wouldn't fit that many guys in it. So what to do? I wanted the Brits to have something stubborn and mobile, but without much offensive ability. And plus, i made the gfx. I don't mind getting too geeky, in fact I dig it. Any suggestions?

I think that's it... lemme post and see if I missed anything.

-FMK.

[klesh]

Okay here are those rules. Note the number at the very top of the text in the file. 2. This is how we'll keep track of who's got what. I'll change the number as I update.

Ok, with the ships. The landing crafts are supposed to move slowly (5), but carry alot of troops (8). The large freighter is supposed to move fast (14), but be limited in its capacity(3). All the rest have been trippled.

-FMK.

[The ANZAC]

Government Collapses!!

After crippling strikes and riots in nearly all of France's major cities (hint hint FMK, I thought the fix was supposed to do something ) the fgovernment of Paul Reynaud has collapsed and a new parliamentary government was formed under Prime minister Gerard d'Ansaque. On first actions in office he has stated he will not declare war on Germany, however troops have been called up to defend Belgium at its manarch's request. No threat is meant to Germany.

[Case]

Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
lol, I just picked one that looked cool. You, Scott and Anzac are the big ship guys, right? Set me up with what you favour.

I've attached ANZACs fine pocket battleship.

France will receive one carrier and the British 3. Now, where shall they go?

France: Brest
Britain: 1 each in Scotland, Portsmouth and Gibraltar.

Yes, it is merely a 'Universal Carrier' as termed by the army. Certainly not very good as an APC, as it wouldn't fit that many guys in it. So what to do? I wanted the Brits to have something stubborn and mobile, but without much offensive ability. And plus, i made the gfx. I don't mind getting too geeky, in fact I dig it. Any suggestions?

The Bren Carrier unit is a good proxy for the tough and highely mechanised British infantry. However, the problem is that every British infantry unit had heaps of Bren/Universal carriers...
Perhaps you could get rid of one of the British leg infantry units.

BTW, the British commando unit should be wearing a green cap - only the paratroopers wore red (the SAS wore beige)

[The ANZAC]

Thanks for the proposing of my unit Case

In other news, France would like to ask Britain to keep her units contained in their fortifications in France or have them withdrawn to Britain, whichever is easier. But France does not want them clogging up the Belgian and Channel roadways.

[techumseh]

I'll ge out of town until Sunday. Will that pose a problem?

[David Floyd]

France will receive one carrier and the British 3. Now, where shall they go?

France: Brest
Britain: 1 each in Scotland, Portsmouth and Gibraltar.

Actually, in my opinion, I would put one carrier in Portsmouth and 2 in Scotland.

A French carrier in Brest is fine.

With regards to allowing German carriers in an alternate history context, I see no problem with this, but in my opinion, there should be some penalty for Germany to focus on their navy. Historically, they did not possess the resources to maintain such a large army and build up their navy, and I think this should be somehow reflected in the game.