The Difference Between Good and Great Players

[HappySunShine]

ok, it's your funeral. Species/woke tried the exact same thing and he got spanked. He never made it to even AD.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by HappySunShine
ok, it's your funeral. Species/woke tried the exact same thing and he got spanked. He never made it to even AD.

Why would anyone play you? You've been caught cheating and admitted to it. You have all the charm of a neck brace and a personality which seems to have been deprived of oxygen at birth.

I mean, why bother? Raz beat you for Christ's sake - he usually get beaten by the barbs.

[War4ever]

but AH tha was luck....

[Deity Dude]

The whole proposition that eyes puts forward is another smokescreen to put down settings he doesn't like.

Who said happiness wonders were an all or nothing proposition. If someone does get all the happiness wonders I would assume they are dominating the game and would win anyways (i.e. their domination allowed them to get the wonders)

In most games I play, I usually get SOME of them (NOT ALL but NOT NONE)

Eyes statement is about as valid as saying "Chess is all about Queens and Rooks because if I am the only one who has them I will win."

Leading to:

"I'll play anyone here a game of chess where I am the only one with Queens and Rooks and I bet I win."


Then leading to the next logical point:

"Chess is for rookies, Checkers is the true game of skill"

Enough of the Eyes logic and back to reality.

The real questions are:

What happens in the games where the wonders are spread out evenly because the players and starts are somewhat even.

If someone does manage to get all the happiness wonders how did they get in such a dominant position to achieve that.

Eyes no need for you to discuss these questions. They are for us rookies.

[War4ever]

Good points DD......thats why alot of people hate duels...the game ends up being arcade civ.....someone generally has an easy road to victory....and despite the best atttempts of your opposition, coming back is a most difficult task.

games of four or more and not usually as lopsided.....though it often turns into a duel if people of the same skill level are not involved.

the best games i have ever played are the ones where everyone is still in the game after one session. this used to be far more common, but alas now, were all so specialized in our abilities that a moehill is often turned into a mountain.

in a four player game i will take pyramids and Suns and be totaly happy.....

i don't need a happy wonder to win in a four player game (its easier) but not necessary

[SlowwHand]

Duels suck.
Another point I'll make is that in a way, Adam Smith's can be used to the same end as "Happiness Wonders".

[Hydey]

Better let Eyes have adams as well then, so its a fair game

[HappySunShine]

The only people that hate duels are the ones that suck at them. I think it's pretty obvious that you suck at anything that has to do with civ2 slow. And no, Adam smith's can't be considered as a happy wonder.

[oedo]

giving away 7 wonders is more than enough. the wonders I require for myself will be Lighthouse, Magellan, Leo´s and Hoover Dam. of course I expect somewhat fair mapsettings. a map with one large continent and only few or even no ocean squares is certainly not what I´m thinking of. after all the meaning this game is to proove eye´s or my theory about happiness wonders.

I also had to rethink the restart rule. an unlimited number of restarts will only cause, that we will demand restarts until we both start on kicky terrain. but restarting over and over again, that´s definetly the least thing I want. I think 3 restarts for each of us will do as well.

eyes, I will be online on saturday evening (afternoon for you). you can meet me at http://www.civ2.net/cgi/chat.pl then. also you can get me through ICQ, I reinstalled it two days ago. maybe you still have me on your list.

[SlowwHand]

I said it could be used to the same effect, Nimrod.
If one isn't paying for improvements, science and/or luxuries have more flexibility.

[SlowwHand]

And Hoover's is an excellent choice, Oedo.

[atawa]

Originally posted by HappySunShine
The only people that hate duels are the ones that suck at them.

Nah, if I want to play a 1 on 1 game I'll go play chess or Go.

This game wasnt designed for duels.

[rah]

Agreed, it's much much more fun and dynamic with more. While I would love to play with seven, it takes way too long. Four seems to be the optimal number for me.

RAH
Duels are either for late night play or for those that can't find more people that want to play with them.

[SlowwHand]

Duels have not a thing to do with building a Civ.

[jes]

oedo, wat für ne komplizierte regel, aber sei's drum. warum hast du nicht einfach ein spiel ohne wunder angeboten?

eyes, evry good diety-player in germany can beat u without a happy wonder, the rookie-thing is from yes-terday.

if u wonna lose twice, we can play a game without any wonder, wow, how nice youll lose