I am a really good cheater

[Ming]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Have either of you ever accomplished that in a game?

No... but I don't build exploreres that early usually.
But, it is totally possible. Eyes gets out on the board quickly, and tips a lot of huts... It is possible to get the needed science that way. Gold found in huts can be used to rush build a unit.
As far as finding your capital... he has published his "locating your opponent via demographics" guide (I still don't understand how it provides percise targeting east vs west... but he logically can cover north and south with his explaination if you buy into it... I don't, but I'm not a civ god either )

The one thing I don't understand is what rah pointed out... why didn't you have a unit in your capital by then

[War4ever]

because its king x2x2

[SlowwHand]

I'd had units, Ming. There wasn't one at that particular point in time.

[Ming]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I'd had units, Ming. There wasn't one at that particular point in time.

If it was indeed double movement, it is silly not to have at least one unit in your capital... I can understand other cities, but NOT YOUR CAPITAL
And even in single movement... keep a unit handy

[Eyes_Of_Night]

Slowwhand just keeps getting dumber, there has to be a limit

Well if I remember right, I started out with alphabet (at that time the host tech thing hadn't started up yet) I found map making and pottery in a hut, after I finish discovering horsebackriding I switched right to seafaring. That means I only had to discover 2 techs. But the real key is that I got seafaring out of a hut as I was researching it. I then rushbuilt an explorer out of an advanced tribe about 10 spaces from your capital. My first hut in the game was a horse. What's so hard to understand?

[War4ever]

well nicely put eyes..... i believe you

[markusf]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Have either of you ever accomplished that in a game?

I have got 20 cities before 3000 bc from tribes in 2x 2x Now i am proud of that (basically 14 huts straight where cities)

[SlowwHand]

Re: Slowwhand just keeps getting dumber, there has to be a limit

Originally posted by EyesOfNight
Well if I remember right, I started out with alphabet (at that time the host tech thing hadn't started up yet) I found map making and pottery in a hut, after I finish discovering horsebackriding I switched right to seafaring. That means I only had to discover 2 techs. But the real key is that I got seafaring out of a hut as I was researching it. I then rushbuilt an explorer out of an advanced tribe about 10 spaces from your capital. My first hut in the game was a horse. What's so hard to understand?

Sorry. I don't buy into that.
Ming can if he wants, as can War4. I don't.

[General Maximus]

possible, but not likely....

[SlowwHand]

Count the years. Say he's got a phenominal start and has an advance every 3 turns and holds that.
Not happening.

[Alexander's Horse]

I'll never play Eyes again

He found my capital before 3500bc - TWICE

As for cheating, I couldn't be bothered with it.

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by markusf
I have got 20 cities before 3000 bc from tribes in 2x 2x Now i am proud of that (basically 14 huts straight where cities)

glad to see it was all skill you are proud of...

[Rasputin]

if people think eyes is cheating , why dont you all just do turn by turn saves!!

leaving your capital or any city for that matter is calling for trouble, play on raging hordes makes it harder for eyes to find you so quickly as he has to fight of barbs first... gives you time to defend ....

[DrFell]

On king 2x2x small map finding your opponents cap around 3500BC is quite common if you're fairly close and an early hut gives you a horse or chariot. Putting an explorer into you're opponents cap by 3450BC is certainly not impossible with the right hut techs and 100 gold or so from a hut, it's not as if Eyes does this every game.

[Ming]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Count the years. Say he's got a phenominal start and has an advance every 3 turns and holds that.
Not happening.

Well... if you read his discription, you will see that he only had to research one science and the rest came from huts. Nothing seems impossible these days.
I remember when people thought that OCC was impossible
So unless you have proof... you know the standard rule here...