Tales from the New Millennium European Diplomatic Front

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WLCD? C? We Love The Card Day? Cant Day? Cart Day? Curt Day? Cun ... never mind ...

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WLTQD

Queen Boudicca, yah, she's hot.....

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*deity of THE DEITIANS*
aka: half-assed dieticians
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[markusf]

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</font>However, the unruly Arabs attempted to settle areas outside that corridor and to intimidate the Danubians from settling the rest of that great river. So far the Danubians have not been intimidated - especially as their army is much larger than that of the interfering Arabs.

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Lets get something straight, I agreed not to expand north if you didn't go any further south. I will settle all land south of ismir both east and west. I hope i don't have to remind you that i am at 80% taxes 20% luxeries and this will not change till i get navigation. If you want war, bring it on, your civ will fall so far behind it won't even be funny. Your dreaming if you think i am giving you the majority of the land.

[Guest]

Hey Markus Turkus, can you draw a map of your preferred border?

This border dispute will be of great interest, if not concern, to the rest of the European nations...

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*deity of THE DEITIANS*
aka: half-assed dieticians
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[Atomic Dogg]

As Mazarin had layed the reinforcement necessary to secure the foundation of the divine right of kings, Louis XIV came to the throne weilding (arguably) absolute power over the state.

From his central government in Versailles, Louis has made great efforts to extend his domain south and east. The great Sun King of Glorious France looks greedily to the Iberian peninsular and its potential wealth. His northern neighbours, the British, have been very cooperative and the Sun King hopes to nurture relations with Queen Boudicia with the proposal of a free trade agreement.

The Sun King scorns the thought of trade with those who practice the misled economic theory of Mercantilism, but decides he will match the incoming tariffs of any civilization with which we trade.

King Louis XIV has extended his freindship
to every civilization he has encountered and seems to have charmed the Queen of the British of whom he ponders whether is worth giving up his mistresses.

Hmmmm.....nah it's too good to be the King!

Prospects are good.....much to be done.

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-Atomic Dogg is Lowang
-how bout that...i happen to be both French and Spanish in real life!

[Curumbor Elendil]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by markusf on 02-03-2001 01:23 AM</font>
Lets get something straight, I agreed not to expand north if you didn't go any further south. I will settle all land south of ismir both east and west. I hope i don't have to remind you that i am at 80% taxes 20% luxeries and this will not change till i get navigation. If you want war, bring it on, your civ will fall so far behind it won't even be funny. Your dreaming if you think i am giving you the majority of the land.

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That is NOT what we agreed, and you know it. If you build any cities outside that corridor I will destroy them.

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Curumbor Elendil
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~jps35/
ICQ 56126989

[markusf]

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</font>&lt;font size=1&gt;Originally posted by Curumbor Elendil on 02-03-2001 11:28 AM&lt;/font&gt;
That is NOT what we agreed, and you know it. If you build any cities outside that corridor I will destroy them.


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Dream on, why on earth would i agree to give you all of greece and a good portion of russia? Also why would i give you 75% of all the rivers on the map and all the best land? I thought we agreed that i would let you have the balkans in exchange i get russia, but you tried to block me from russia. Also at the first sign of attack i will gift the mono to italy so they can build mikes. Then i will pester you so you fall far behind in tech.




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[Curumbor Elendil]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by markusf on 02-03-2001 02:47 PM</font>
Dream on, why on earth would i agree to give you all of greece and a good portion of russia? Also why would i give you 75% of all the rivers on the map and all the best land? I thought we agreed that i would let you have the balkans in exchange i get russia, but you tried to block me from russia.

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We arranged no such thing; besides, "Wallachia" is not even in Russia (the south-central region of Romania is called Wallachia). (The part of my chatlog where we made our deal is unfortunately overwritten now - otherwise I'd post it.) In fact, I told you when we made the deal I would build on the rest of that river (the Danube). Now, if you want southern Russia, take it. I just want the Balkans. If you want to move settlers north of Wallachia to build, go ahead. To expand faster, you might want to use triremes to move up to the north coast of the Black Sea instead. Whatever. I just want the Balkans, as I thought we'd agreed!

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Also at the first sign of attack i will gift the mono to italy so they can build mikes.

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Great; I love the Italians. A wonder for them is like a wonder for me. Your building a large, undefended empire has solidified our relationship.

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Then i will pester you so you fall far behind in tech.

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I would make up for it with the technologies plundered from conquered cities.

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Curumbor Elendil
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[Curumbor Elendil]

Here we go...bits and pieces of our conversation were carried on in ICQ. Right before we made the deal I asked:

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You have sent a message!
im confused as to why you want that part of the river in particular, as i will be building east of it. why dont you take the easternmost part of that river? (that rivers the danube, btw)
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And then apparently you said something via chat, and then I wrote:

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You have sent a message!
i see - you want one city out of reach of ships. very well - but i get the rest of that river then. ill guarantee you a corridor from your mainland to that spot
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See? I said I would get the rest of the river that Izmir was sitting on, and you didn't object. And I said you would get a corridor from your mainland to Izmir, which I have outlined above in red. What does the term "corridor" mean to you? To me it means a straight, narrow passage, not a huge amorphous chunk (as in your map).

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Curumbor Elendil
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ICQ 56126989

[Nap Bonaparte]

Great posts gentlemen....and a wonderful overall job on the graphics. Looks like tensions are arising in the SE. Keep the posts goin....

[Guest]

quote from Markus:
"Then i will pester you so you fall far behind in tech."

Queen Boudicca thinks it highly unlikely that any nation will fall too far behind in techs... there are many equilibrating forces at work

A nation that gets free techs without any science investment, whilst putting all it resources into city building, yet builds no armies is really asking for trouble

It is *understandable* that other nations will be bemused by the bold and aggressive assertions of a military cripple.

Queen Boudicca plans to hold a secret rendezvous with all the (male!) leaders she has made contact with - one way or another...
Suffice to say that the key agenda item for discussion is the parallel planning of all nations science discoveries

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*deity of THE DEITIANS*
aka: half-assed dieticians
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[finbar]

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</font> Great; I love the Italians. A wonder for them is like a wonder for me.
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Pardon?

That aside, someone's buggered up the thread with one of their posts. Could you fix it? Please?

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Here is the city/unit status at 425BC:



BTW - out of role-playing mode...
Thanks for the encouragement Nap!
I think the machinations behind the scenes is what really enriches the game and produces unpredictable outcomes. Elendil spent a lot of time setting this modpak up so it's great to see everyone getting into the swing of it
I think we should all use the same map and graphics too - it effects the spirit and identity of the game.

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*deity of THE DEITIANS*
aka: half-assed dieticians
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[Guest]

Just another jpg for the hell of it



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*deity of THE DEITIANS*
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Beaut. Nice graphic. Now will whomever stuffed the thread please fix it?

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