Isn't it about time they release the civ2 source code?

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by CapTVK
Wake up to smell the coffee people. We've already got the Civ source code!

And this didn't help.

Also I see Mercator was clever enough to see the earlier 'a'.

I think a lot of your points reinforce the use 'the' civ source code would be.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by Mercator
The scenario editing possibilitie are where civ2 blows just about all of its competition out of the water.

Agreed, I still enjoy playing Civ2 scenarios. I do miss Captain Nemo though.

Even the point about the map topology (iso-maps) is a problem that's being settled right now by one of the developers (Raimar Falke).

I could add freeciv map support for MapEdit once that's done. [/QUOTE]

Now there's something nifty, I'll be looking forward to it.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by DrSpike


Ok this was the bit that confused me.............but now (in the day, completely sober) I see you said 'a' civ source code not 'the' civ source code.

I'm glad that's 'a' point that's is cleared up now.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by DrSpike

I think a lot of your points reinforce the use 'the' civ source code would be.

I have no doubt about that the release of 'the' source would benefit all parties.

"If" it was released, I must point out. Even if it was released tomorrow by Atari (the company formerly known as Infogrames ) it would still take considerable time (1-2 years) to see actual benefits from it. The source won't be properly documented so it will be major challenge to actually introduce new features. The Civ2 source would still be at a disadvantage compared to the Freeciv one.

[DarthVeda]

You know if Civ3 and Freeciv are truly outstanding products, then the creators of both should have nothing to fear from the release of a civ2 source.

But are they so outstanding or just rehashes? Some of the attitudes in this thread really make you wonder...

[DrSpike]

Well if I understand it correctly Freeciv is meant to largely be a rehash................civ3 on the other hand remade the game completely, to its detriment.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by DarthVeda
You know if Civ3 and Freeciv are truly outstanding products, then the creators of both should have nothing to fear from the release of a civ2 source.

But are they so outstanding or just rehashes? Some of the attitudes in this thread really make you wonder...

Well, everyone likes to root for his or her particular favourites. That doesn't mean they dislike all the rest. Far from it, to give a suitable metaphor:

Same tree, different branches. What's good for the tree is also good for the branch. The direction doesn't really matter. They all grow out from the base of the tree.

[Shaka Naldur]

let's ask for the code, what should we do?
we can start emailing them begging....
just pressing them a little, how much money would they lose if we got the code? NONE

what do you say?

[H Tower]

Atari is still selling the game on their website, so I have a feeling they won't be releasing the code anytime soon

http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry10?V1=390782&PN=1&SP=10023&xid=41045&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0

[Mercator]

Originally posted by H Tower
Atari is still selling the game on their website, [...]

Or maybe not...

Minimum system requirements

• The Civilization II Multiplayer Gold Edition CD-ROM installed on your hard disk

They're just tricking us into buying an empty CD.

[DarthVeda]

Originally posted by H Tower
Atari is still selling the game on their website, so I have a feeling they won't be releasing the code anytime soon
http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec...P=0&CACHE_ID=0

Yeah but iD software is still selling Doom 2 for $25 even though they have released the source!

I think what they did is release the source code but not the levels/art files, so you would need to own a copy of doom to actually play it unless you had your own art/levels.

So what Atari could do is remove all of the .gif files and the .dll files that store the pictures, along with all the scenarios, text files, and maps. So you'd have civ2's executable source and whatever else is needed but you'd have to own the resource files to be able to do anything with it.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Mercator


Or maybe not...

Minimum system requirements

• The Civilization II Multiplayer Gold Edition CD-ROM installed on your hard disk

They're just tricking us into buying an empty CD.

I was wondering about that myself.

orignally posted by darth veda
So what Atari could do is remove all of the .gif files and the .dll files that store the pictures, along with all the scenarios, text files, and maps. So you'd have civ2's executable source and whatever else is needed but you'd have to own the resource files to be able to do anything with it.

I hadn't thought of that, excellent point

[Gatekeeper]

Hmm ... what are the odds that one or more of the Civ II programmers would be around from time to time to help "Joe and Jane Public" document Civ II source code if it ever went public?

Gatekeeper

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Hmm ... what are the odds that one or more of the Civ II programmers would be around from time to time to help "Joe and Jane Public" document Civ II source code if it ever went public?

Gatekeeper

do they let senior citizens use the internet at the retirement homes?

[Mercator]

... Perhaps we should just start a petition. If CFC, Apolyton and FreeCiv all participate we should be able to get thousands of supporters.