The Truest Gift of the Gods

[-Jrabbit]

La Fayette -- I've known Ming and Rah since around 1973 and hang with them frequently. I've played Civ2 (SP) for only a month or so and have yet to win at Deity (but soon!).

If the MacIntosh thing is not a technical hurdle, I would love to join in...


Just beware -- Specific instruction (and considerable patience) from big, strong, experienced players would be required.

[La Fayette]

IIRC Smash is (or was) a Mac user.
You would therefore get sound advice if needed.
My own advice would be: download the game and try to play a few turns. If you feel that you are really spoiling everything, you can refrain from sending your savegame and ask for advice instead.
Don't be afraid though, I have already played succession games with awkward players in the team (I won't name them now ), and the more experienced ones always managed to catch up when needed.

[Smash]

Yes MAC is ok.

The save files look different cuz they have no mac resource fork,but they work fine.I use stuffit expander with dropstuff on my mac to decompress.

The only potential problem is with compressing.I had to get a mac freindly zip utility...PK zip or something like that.There was a preference to keep or remove the mac resource fork.A PC person can "fix" this themselves.....but we wouldn't expect them to have a clue now would we?

Then of course there is the MGE vs 2.42 non compatiblity issue.

[-Jrabbit]

Thanks for the welcome, and especially all the info, guys.

I'll do a little experimenting with my iMac (OS 9.0.4) and MGE (has latest patch to 1.1) this weekend. Not certain, but I think I got Stuffit and Zip as standard equipment. If no Zip, I'll go find the PK Zip version you mentioned, Smash.

Maybe I'll join in after that...

-Jrabbit

[Andemagne]

succession game with only four (4) players!
and I thought that was impossible.
I played 3 s-games in fall of 2000 and I'm currently
engaged in Civ3-succesion with other Finns in the OT.
but maybe I could participate your next game?

[Julius Brenzaida]

Originally posted by Andemagne
succession game with only four (4) players!
and I thought that was impossible.
I played 3 s-games in fall of 2000 and I'm currently
engaged in Civ3-succesion with other Finns in the OT.
but maybe I could participate your next game?

Andemagne, you would be most welcome for the next game
Or even this one
-Jrabbit, I hope your experimentations work well

[Julius Brenzaida]

Moi, where are you
It's been some times
If I have no news and nobody else steps in, I will play on wednesday

[Julius Brenzaida]

I am playing ... now

[Julius Brenzaida]

1855 ad. Hmmm nice situation, but we’re making war on many fronts. Not that I don’t like that. Warwick was a great capture in south Africa. It should produce many spies to wear down the English. I send a transport of Cavalry from New Zealand that should attack the Mongol on the Pacific coast of America. There is some weak spots South of Vancouver (I see Smash welcoming us) ... My predecessor have already disembarked in Florida. I carrelessly provoke the Vikings to war by staying too close from their cities that by the way seem to be disconnected. Weaks spots there ...
1856 ad. We capture the Viking town of Jelling in China.
1857 ad. We establish an embassy with the Mongols. ****, they are under democracy. No bribing. We discover Electronics. Refining next
1858 ad. We are lucky to have the vikings : we bribe their city of Issus somewhere in Mongolia.
1859 ad. 100 gold in a village in North Korea. We capure the Mongol city of Lisbonne on the East Coast of the USA. Mongol change gvt ! Fools ...
1860 ad. Pacific Eye founded in East Australia.
1861-3 ad. Many sabotage operations ... Many little battles, no significant progresss.
1864 ad. We discover Steeel too, (I forgot when we got refining, and we grabbed Fundy from the Vikings). We see the Mongols are planning a counter attack near Porto Alegre, on the Brasilian Atlantic Coast. Watch out nex player !

[Julius Brenzaida]

The wars are not going that well and we’re only inflicting minor damages. We lack good communications and money. Engineers are working on the former (especially in Central America), while a few caravans are en route to the English democracy for the latter. It would be nice to buy some viking or mongol cities and be able to produce troops from their territories. Our cities in the Pacific Islands are far, far away.
Overall, the situation is sound but we need to hasten if we want to conquer it all.

[Julius Brenzaida]

Well, Moi seems to have disappeared. He should be next.
Otherwise,, Smash or Lafayette, as you wish or why not a courageous new player.
Here’s the saved game.

[-Jrabbit]

I've been away for a few days but have downloaded a Mac-friendly ZIP (ZipitMac 2.1) utility in that time. Will experiment (tonite I hope) to learn its use in compressing game files. Per Smash, standard download via Stuffit should work. Julius, I think what I'll do is email a game file that I've downloaded and then re-compressed.

Too much stuff still unclear to commit, but once I've gotten through these mechanics, I think I'll join in.

Would love to do all this now, but am in my stupid firewall-ridden NT work environment, complete with Nazi IT dept. Oh, well.

[La Fayette]

I think I am next on the 'normal' list. Therefore I play NOW.

[La Fayette]

The final war has started. We are now fighting hard against the Mongols, the English and the Vikings.
I shall explain later which is the situation of each foe. Here are the main events:
1866: A Mongol spy bribes Lisbonne (Mongols get Tactics ). We decide not to fight for that city which is all alone and isolated (the Mongols might take it back and get a new tech each time).
1867: Amphibious Warfare discovered
1869: HOOVER DAM finished building; Machine Tools discovered
1871: Combustion discovered
1874: Automobile discovered
1876: Nottingham conquered

Now, here is the situation on each front:

1) English
The English are weak and fight awkwardly (not quite their reputation in real life ). Our shipchain between Paraguay and the western coast of Namibia is almost complete. We have just taken Nottingham almost without losses and the walls of York are down (vet spies, thank you ). Conquering the English Empire should be almost a piece of cake.

2) Mongol
They fight fiercely, and have probably already lost 20 units or so in the great battle of Ormuz (my advice: sabotage enemy units when needed with our numerous vet spies). We should perhaps be able to take Ormuz in 1877. And our supply line is almost complete: all cities in South America linked by RR + road between Panama and Ormuz completed + RR Panama-Ormuz should be completed in 3 or 4 turns.

3) Viking
I have chosen a supply line from northern Australia (shipchain almost complete to Ghulaman + road under building between Ghulaman and Holmgard, which is the first Viking city that I have chosen to attack).
Holmgard should be ours now, but the AI has not been kind to us:
7 vet spies needed to destroy the walls!...and a vet Alpine unit fortified in the mountain killed in one blow by Viking Cavalry
. Most of our Australian engineers are now being transferred to south east Asia in order to build a RR Ghulaman-Holmgard ASAP.

We are now at least 10 techs ahead of anyone and Mobile Warfare is to be discovered in 1877. Our treasury has grown up to 3500+. Our first industrial city, Warwick, builds 1 cav/2turns. And our holy capital is going to start growing well over size 12 with help of food caravans.
Enjoy!

[Smash]

um...no save!?