Favorite Pre-Made Map

[Dr.Oogkloot]

What's your favorite pre-made-map, and why?

I personally like maps of Europe and Middle Earth. I also like maps that have both Europe and America on it but not the rest of the world. I don't really maps of the world, don't know why, maybe because I'm tired of them, maybe because I don't like the terrain and form of land.
But I play on all kinds of maps, not just the ones mentioned above.

[Gatekeeper]

Dr. Oogkloot, et al.:

I generally prefer two pre-made maps:

1. Earth (Large)
2. Northern Hemisphere

I have made some terrain modifications to both maps to suit my personal tastes and enjoy playing on them (well, most of the time).

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[Andz83]

1. large earth
2. the europe map that came with FW in the atlantis scenario, atlantis overpainted with ocean... the europe map that came with the orig civ2 sucks

[Seeker]

1. Europe PW (right here at Apolyton)
2. Mercator's Earth
3. Mars
4. My stupid map, "Essence of Civ" (two large, letter sea continents with thin, Bosporous like channels leading to main bays)

[cavebear]

Well, for what it's worth, if I want to win a game a play on either the world map and take Americans, or on the European map and take Russians. With the former, I can build all around the coastlines and with the latter, I can built defensive cities to the East and expand West...

I'm bad enough so that those can still be a challenge if I don't attack the AI civs and let them develop. At deity level, of course, and with raging tribes...

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[Scouse Gits]

This may be a silly question, but ...
except for historical scenarios and the like what is the point of playing on a pre-made map? After all the discovery of the unknown is one of the best aspects of the game.
Maybe I have missed the point

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[Dr.Oogkloot]

Pre-made maps can have all kinds of forms, they can have lots of very small islands or one huge continent or almost only arctic terrain or almost only mountain or almost only ocean or very weird-shaped continents, whereas random maps are always more or less the same. Besides, I just think it's fun to play on a map I know from the real world or from a book. From a game-strategic point of view random maps might be a little better, but pre-made maps are usually more interesting IMO.

Which leads me to something else: does anyone ever play on the maps roof.map (himalaya) and a map that's just made of ice with rivers and good terrain along the rivers (I think it's called ice.mp)? In my experience these maps lead to interesting games.
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[kcbob]

Maybe I should make this my next area of "exploration" in the world of Civ.

I've progressed from Settler to Deity, done OCC, ICS, and all points in between, but I have always played on a computer generated random map. A question I would have about scenarios and maps would be how accurate are they? Do they play pretty much according to history?

That's the wonderful thing about Civ, I guess. No matter what you are currently finding engrossing, there's always something more.

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[Comrade Dan]

The latge World map (play as Zulu's, and expand to maybe close to 100-120 cities), or as the british on the Europe map.

Andz - the next time you're on ICQ, send me that Europe map please!

[Comrade Dan]

That Europe map is HORRIBLE!

[War4ever]

that Europe map is way too easy, and in my opinion if you see the map ahead of time, the game play is totally different. although many random maps have less than desired shapes, i think, and i think Scouse Gits and (2) would agree that half the fun of civ is exploring new terrain....... you can't do that with premade maps. *Scouses backing ends here*
I love to look at the map after i have won just to see my starting point and where the map points for me to go....... i realize one gets this with the Apollo program but i do not usually study the map as intensely then...... at anyrate i am babling now... point is the map always points out conquest either economically or physically hence my preference for random maps..... pls i hope civIII has a good random map generator

[Dr.Oogkloot]

IMO the original Europe map extends too far to the east...Europe itself is too small there. I like the PW Europe map better (although it's a bit...messy. But nice)

[Andz83]

quote: Originally posted by Comrade Dan on 09-02-2000 11:01 PM That Europe map is HORRIBLE!

no, it's good! its only disadvantages are:

Northern Europe is cut
the strange angle

[Mercator]

I like my own map of Australia, especially when I'm trying to break a new population record.
I like my own map of the world, especially when I want to do a very, very quick game. I start as the Romans, pick several other European tribes with me, and try to conquer all of them with my starting settler(s)
Actually, I love making maps, but I hardly ever play on pre-made maps.

[Sten Sture]

Merc - these aren't yours are they??

Some of these are pretty good, but most have too much ocean for the AI to deal with very well.
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare...apcentral.html