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  • #46
    No that is not the issue, it is irrelevant wether we built them or not, selling anti-tank defences with the intention of destroying the city is cheating. Plain and simple.

    Edit: Oh, yes. And also I think that the defence of Stalingrad takes precidence over Kotelnikovo.
    Last edited by EZRhino; May 29, 2003, 22:21.
    Sea Kings TOT

    Sors salutis/ et virtutis/ michi nunc contraria,/ est affectus/ et defectus/ semper in angaria./
    Hac in hora/ sine mora/ corde pulsem tangite;/ quod per sortem/ sternit fortem,/ mecum omnes plangite!

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    • #47
      I'm not sure if the German 'fortified positions' are as strong as ours are - but I managed to take out the pontoon bridge in winter 1942-3, with 2 or 3 Katyushas. So, it doesn't take a lot of units - but then again the bridge may be weaker in winter?

      Nonetheless, we should not sacrifice the defense of Rostov to save Kotelnikovo.
      "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

      "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
      "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man


        Nonetheless, we should not sacrifice the defense of Rostov to save Kotelnikovo.
        Very well said! Whoever speaks of taking a risk with the defense of Rostov should be sent to the front to search for German mines
        Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

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        • #49
          You need to use partizans to take out the bridge. It'll cost you about 5,6 of them.
          Alexandr Yopov, Commander of the Murmansk front in the Red Front democracy game. Fighting for the glory of our marchal and the Rodina.

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          • #50
            Yes, it is imperitive that we concentrate as many partisans and cruisers on the don as is possible.
            Sea Kings TOT

            Sors salutis/ et virtutis/ michi nunc contraria,/ est affectus/ et defectus/ semper in angaria./
            Hac in hora/ sine mora/ corde pulsem tangite;/ quod per sortem/ sternit fortem,/ mecum omnes plangite!

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            • #51
              We need to kill them before they reach our cities, which means we habve to get rid of the pontoon bridge as soon as possible. Unfortunately, most of are partisans are at other fronts, and are needed there for the defense of the cities We will have to counter the attack waves during some months!

              PS I thought somebody said somewhere that if the Germans take Rostov, and we retake it, they lose all their units east of the Don. Is this true (it's a rumor I picked up somewhere, I never lost Rostov, but it could help us here if they break through!!!! We let them take Rostov, and retake it the next turn, so they lose most of their units attacking our more vulnerable cities)
              Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

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              • #52
                "letting" the germans take Rostov could also mean that they stack anywhere from 50-100 units in the city in just one turn though. It seems awfully risky

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by H Tower
                  "letting" the germans take Rostov could also mean that they stack anywhere from 50-100 units in the city in just one turn though. It seems awfully risky
                  Ditto!
                  *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                  • #54
                    I agree, I was only brainstorming! Plus, this was a test to check the loyalty of everybody here If you would have said yes, you would be on your way to the Gulag right now

                    No, serious, I know it is very risky, but if they break through, it might be our only option left! BTW, I don't know if this rumour is true, I never lost Rostov.
                    Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

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                    • #55
                      I will not evac/leave from Rostov unless im forced to!


                      I will defend the city to the bitter end!

                      But if that rumor is true, we could try..
                      Last edited by FiGu; May 31, 2003, 07:13.
                      "This Nation has earned the right to Live." - Carl Gustav von Mannerheim

                      Comrade Patiskov Figiskovsky serving as Commander of the 2nd Ukranian Front and Member of the Stavka in RF DG!
                      Current Medals: Valiant Labour Medal and Order of Glory and IRC medal

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                      • #56
                        I'm not willing to let them take the city and counter-attack. We should try and hold it as long as possible.
                        Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by FiGu
                          I will not evac/leave from Rostov unless im forced to!


                          I will defend the city to the bitter end!
                          That's the true spirit, comrade! If we lose Rostov, it will certainly be your bitter end

                          Just kidding
                          Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Bossy20000


                            That's the true spirit, comrade! If we lose Rostov, it will certainly be your bitter end

                            Just kidding

                            Not if you uhm... you got "silented"(killed) before that
                            just kidding
                            "This Nation has earned the right to Live." - Carl Gustav von Mannerheim

                            Comrade Patiskov Figiskovsky serving as Commander of the 2nd Ukranian Front and Member of the Stavka in RF DG!
                            Current Medals: Valiant Labour Medal and Order of Glory and IRC medal

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                            • #59
                              I would certainly vote to oust the Marshal if the decisions of his handpicked commanders cost us Rostov! If Rostov falls, we have little else in that area to stop the Germans; losing Rostov could cost us the war.
                              "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                              "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                              "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                              • #60
                                6 Kv-1's in Rostov are ready to kill some Krauts!
                                You leaders of the USSR do not have to worry about losing your summer houses in Rostov.
                                "This Nation has earned the right to Live." - Carl Gustav von Mannerheim

                                Comrade Patiskov Figiskovsky serving as Commander of the 2nd Ukranian Front and Member of the Stavka in RF DG!
                                Current Medals: Valiant Labour Medal and Order of Glory and IRC medal

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