Election discussion thread

[conmcb25]

I believe the result is the same as last time.

3-1-1 seats for One Israel, harmony, Imperial Israel.

Pinky is the expert on the constitution, but I believe that is what happens.

[PinkyGen]

Well, actually Emu came up with the counting system, to bad he doesn't seem to be around anymmore. I do know it involves rounding.

Here's the copy from the Basic Law.

"Ok, I've read the Knesset's Laws (thank you for the links, panag), and the system is good. The total amount of votes is divided between the number of seats. Let's say that there are 20 votes and 5 seats, so we have 4 votes per seat.

And let's say that we have three parties:

A-> 8 votes
B-> 7 votes
C-> 5 votes

First of all, only entire seats are given to the parties: A will get 2 seat, B and C one seat. After that, the excess seat is given to B, because B got more votes than C. If there will be more than one free seat, the first will go for B, the next for C, etc. and so on."

With the votes so far
8-2-1 (One, Imperial, Harmony), the total is 11.

8/11 = 72%
2/11 = .18
1/11 = .09

With five seats in play, One Israel's 72% would get it 3 seats. Other parties would need 20% to outright capture a seat, so now the question is where do the excess seats go? Does one Israel, by virtue of being top, get one excess seat, with Imperial Israel picking up the other, and Harmony in the cold. Or do the excess go to Harmony and Imperial?

This is actually quite academic, as the polls are not yet closed. I know for sure Stefan, who is counting votes, will vote, raising Harmony up to 2. There may be other votes, and perhaps a secret one.

Assume I just add Harmony's extra we get,


8/12 = 67% (One Israel)
2/12 = 17% (Imperial)
2/12= 17% (Harmony)
(Yes, I know it does not add up to 100%, I rounded).
Again, One Israel picks up 3, and now questions about the extra two seats, since no one won them outright.
Personally, I would give them to Imperial and Harmony, and get the 3-1-1 breakdown, but I'm not yet sure if technically that is what it should be. But I have no problem or objection with the 3-1-1, unless someone thinks we should interpret the laws in another way.

[H Tower]

How is the Imperial Party going to take their seat? Stalin is currently performing duties as commander of the Northern Front, and the other member hasn't shown any ability to play the game...

I suppose Imperial could renounce their claim to a seat in government for an assurance that Stalin retains his command position in the army. Then it would be 4 One Israel seats and 1 Harmony seat. That is assuming Stefan votes. If he doesn't, Israel would have a 1 party government

[PinkyGen]

I think we need to either ignore or amend the provision of the Basic Laws that says members of the knesset cannot hold military posts. It's silly, and unduly restricting.

[Dr. Nick]

We need constitutional reform! It is now time to sweep with the radical extremist parties of Israel!

[H Tower]

Well if we don't have enough interested people to play all the parts, then sure, we could change the constitution. Combine Prime Minister w/Chief of Staff, combine Immigration/Defense and call it Labor Minister or of course, allow a person to hold more than one post.

[PinkyGen]

We have already somewhat done that by merging Immigration with Defense.
I don't think we need to merge anything else just yet. It's just that I say we need to say people in the knesset can still serve in the army. Otherwise Stalin would have to take a cabinet job, or else just sit in the knesset without a responsibility and do nothing.

[conmcb25]

I agree with Knesset members should be able to be in the military.

That would solve the problem, if we have a shortage of interested participants in the future, we can then again discusss combining some more positions.

[Panag]

Originally posted by conmcb25
I agree with Knesset members should be able to be in the military.

That would solve the problem, if we have a shortage of interested participants in the future, we can then again discusss combining some more positions.

hi ,

or jobs could be given to those who ar willing to serve , ....

have a nice day

[Dr. Nick]

I was talking about constitutional reform to exclude the radical leftist parties from government...

[H Tower]

Originally posted by panag

EDIT: nevermind.



So are we going to have a vote to allow a general to have a position in the knesset or just wave our collective hands and change the constitution?

/me waves his hand

[PinkyGen]

I say wave our hands. I'll start a new thread about it. The Basic Laws says any amendment needs to be voted upon.

[Dr. Nick]

*bangs shoe on desk*

Evict the illegal parties from government!

[Panag]

Originally posted by PinkyGen
I say wave our hands. I'll start a new thread about it. The Basic Laws says any amendment needs to be voted upon.

hi ,


well why not change the basic law then also , ...

have a nice day

[Stefan Härtel]

Nah, nevermind