Open Ministry - War Planning in Real Time

[MrWhereItsAt]

Also, the diplomat with escorting Cavalry can move from San Jacinto to Delhi and attack at the same time.

A Cavalry and the third Rifleman from Babar can do likewise. In this way, all would be ready to attack on turn 3 (1806), with 4 spies causing mayhem and then 4 Cavalry (6 if we move out ALL of the Cavalry form Bombay) attacking immediately after. A Rifleman (from Babar) will be on hand to fortify the city from turn 3.

What do you think? If this is OK I'll start posting screenshots for this start of the plan.

EDIT: Hydey - even though in two turns it becomes a spy and becomes potentially more useful?

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

[civman2000]

remember, we will be able to reuse spies... The plan sounds good

[MrWhereItsAt]

Next on the target list is either Calcutta (we already have a Rifleman, Cavalry and Diplomat in a fortress within attacking distance, we can also get three more Cavalry there at the end of turn 1) or Madras( within attacking range of any of the 4-6 possible surviving Cavalry from the assault on Delhi.

If we take Calcutta then the Indian city of Madras is almost surrounded by our cities (possibly a slightly dodgy situation, although not for long). If we take Madras then the survivng Cavalry can join the assault on Calcutta.

Once these are taken only Bangalore (further W) and the unknown location of Lahore are left. Lahore should be NW of Calcutta.

EDIT: Civman - yeeeesss, provided they aren't captured. They won't be vets.

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

[Hydey]

yes the diplo will destroy what ever they are building ,if it is wall or not, if we wait and they build walls it may take 3 or 4 non vet spies to take out the walls

[Hydey]

we must remember not to finish building any diplo's before we get espianage, that way we will get them produced as vet spies and not diplos upgraded to non vets

[Hydey]

Just did a quick test on an old game I had, vet spies took out walls 50% of the time (2 vets spies for each city), while non vets took out walls 20% of the time (5 spies for each city)

city on river with walls needed 4 cavalry for each musket, without walls cavalry won 50% of the battles,
we must take out the walls first.

city on plains no river with walls 2 cavalry per musket, without walls cavalry won every time.

[MrWhereItsAt]

OMIGOD I didn't realize we had Sun Tzu!

Whoops. Guess it IS pretty late.

There's only 1 diplo that I suggested rushing - in New Castellon. By waiting, there is no delay in the plan. If we time the rushbuy so that the unit is built the same turn we discover Espionage, the new spy can move (with all the other units) to the fortress between Delhi and Madras on turn 2, reaching it safely. Then turn 3 arrives and we attack as normal. Brilliant!


If we rushbuy the turn BEFORE we get Espionage, do you think the diplo will build BEFORE the discovery or AFTER? We want AFTER, that way the diplo becomes a spy, then isbuilt as a vet spy. Sheesh! Complex.

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

[Hydey]

we have alot of troops on the old egyptian / american lands we could transport to the war zones.

[-Jrabbit]

Eactly right, Hydey. In fact, once we have Espy, we should produce a legion of rushed vet spies, everywhere, and ship them to the various fronts. Once we have 30 or 40 of them, I'm suggesting a strategic oedo change to Fundy so we can start churning out cavalry.

None will stand before us for long! (omigawd I'm channeling shade! )

[MrWhereItsAt]

Thanks Hydey.

In those cases, we need more spies for taking the walls out of both Madras and Calcutta. Both are on rivers, and although we don't see Calcutta as having walls, it is more than reasonable to expect they do, and at the very least they are building them.

Four cities in this warzone are building Engineers. I think there is more value in having more spies and Cavalry, thus I will see what the City Planner has to say, and see if I can get a poll going on whether we can change some of this.

EDIT: perhaps some of the troops in Amer-Egypt need to stay there - we keep getting attacked by Barbs and Thebes only barely held out last time. But we can certainly build new ones and ship 'em out.

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

[Hydey]

Over to the bab campaign, next to branden burg we have a boat with a cavalry asleep another boat and 2 cavalry in brandenburg fortified , we could use these to take babylon and akkad when the ironclads take out the defenders.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Er, the save I have shows a Caravel with two Cavalry, Brandenburg has another Caravel, 4 Riflemen and another two Cavalry. Another Rifleman is fortified outside the city.

If we send the two Caravels over with two Riflemen and one Cavalry in one, one Rifleman and two Cavalry in the other, I think this is a fine defence force for taking Babylon and Akkad.

This is a no-brainer - continually attack these two with 'Clads until they are devoid of defense, then enter the cities with the troops from the Caravels - one for each city. A Caravel returns to Brandenburg to recover the remaining Cavalry and to transport over any future troops from there. Thus the two Bab cities can start building units immediately, with little need for any more defense.

Minister of WAR, not peace.
MrWIA.

[Hydey]

agreed , from there we can scearch for the other cities

[MrWhereItsAt]

-The Rifleman moves back in to Brandenburg to be put into a Caravel (thus ensuring we still have two Riflemen in Brandenburg)
-The two Caravels travel to station with the 'Clads until the defense of Babylon and Akkad is no more. Then we take their cities and start cranking out more Cav/spies!

[Hydey]

good plan