Has MarkG poisoned our Game?

[Space05us]

He speak treason against The Mighty Ming!!!(oh and uh that Mark guy too)

[Hywel Dda]

It was somewhere on these forums, is all I can say! A month or so ago. Can't remember topic, posters, or anything else about it.

Space05us: sorry, but IIRC the Mighty Ming was heavily implicated!

I'm pretty certain this happened. I pretty sure I didn't dream it!!!!!

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Hywel Dda
It was somewhere on these forums, is all I can say! A month or so ago. Can't remember topic, posters, or anything else about it.

well, this is the new age, the internet generation so to speak. and we don't accept just any assertion or statement without that little thing called evidence. which would mean a link

[cavebear]

Originally posted by Hywel Dda
It was somewhere on these forums, is all I can say! A month or so ago. Can't remember topic, posters, or anything else about it.

Space05us: sorry, but IIRC the Mighty Ming was heavily implicated!

I'm pretty certain this happened. I pretty sure I didn't dream it!!!!!

Some support for the claim would be interesting...

[Matticus]

So I guess that the banana has been validated by this poll, has it not?

[Hydey]

Yes MarkG wants to destroy a rather active forum on his apolyton site. That makes perfect sense to me

[MarkG]

i admit it, i put hidden messages in the html of the forum pages telling people to sign-up for the civ3 democracy game

It was somewhere on these forums, is all I can say! A month or so ago.

a month or so ago. may 13. a week(or so) later (may 21) i posted in the news a huge update by jrabbit...
yeap, i'm definately determined in killing this idea that i supported

[Hydey]

See he admits it so it must be true.

[atawa]

Sounded weird to begin with, this is the most active of all Civ2 forums after all

[-Jrabbit]

Historian Report

Here are the facts as history will record them!

MarkG has shown consistent evidence of total support for this forum. He started it, for one. For another, he PM'd me, unbidden, to ask for history updates each of the last 2 months. These lovely little PR pieces have been far more successful than anything else (e.g., signature links) in attracting new participants to the Civ2 Democracy Game.

Ming is another story. As many of you know, we are long-time buddies IRL and I see him at least once a week. It's true that Ming has displayed a disparaging attitude to this forum, at one point (verbally) telling me he thought it was a "dead forum." But so what?: He feels that way about a lot of fora, and he's certainly entitled to his opinion (however myopic and uninformed it may be). In essence, he's just indicating he has no interest in what we're doing. Which is fine.

As moderator, Ming mostly cares about how much of his time a forum takes up. Since he's only had to step in here once, that puts this forum solidly in the "Mostly Harmless" category.
--Which means he doesn't have to go "on patrol" for OT threadjacks, flame wars, etc.
--Which means we get some slack when our threads wander a bit and become mildly spammish on occasion.
--Which means Post Count Heaven.

Which makes this a great place to be.

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[Ming]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Historian Report
Here are the facts as history will record them!

Maybe the Historiian shouldn't drink so much if he consideres these the "facts"

Ming is another story. As many of you know, we are long-time buddies IRL and I see him at least once a week. It's true that Ming has displayed a disparaging attitude to this forum, at one point (verbally) telling me he thought it was a "dead forum."

This is a bold face lie... I have never said it was a dead forum... and never thought it either.

But so what?: He feels that way about a lot of fora, he's certainly entitled to his opinion (however myopic and uninformed it may be).

And please tell me which other fora that I mentioned besides the ones that actually are dead and haven't had any posts in months...

In essence, he's just indicating he has no interest in what we're doing.

Wrong... while I have stated that I have no interest in joining the game... it doesn't mean I have no interest in what is being posted here.

As moderator, Ming mostly cares about how much of his time a forum takes up. Since he's only had to step in here once, that puts this forum solidly in the "Mostly Harmless" category.

I have stepped in more than once in this forum... just recently in response to the many complaints about skywalker...
In addition... ask around on how many times I'm requested to take action in regards to topping and untopping threads... I think "once" I overlooked a request, and when I was made aware of it, I acted.

--Which means we get some slack when our threads wander a bit and become mildly spammish on occasion.
--Which means Post Count Heaven.

All forums have threads that wander a bit and become spammish on occasions... but that doesn't mean Post Count Heaven... just ask skywalker...
[/QUOTE]

For a Historian, you sure don't do a very good job.
Next time, maybe the historian should check his facts.

[JCP]

Oh !
A link where we may read in the same time the Great MarkG and the Allmighty Ming !
Really, that is at the opposite of indifference for this forum, which becomes the "floret" of this site !

[Kropotkin]

Friends IRL... until now...

[-Jrabbit]

HISTORIAN FLOGS HIMSELF

Well, I really stepped in it this time.

What started as a positive "support of MarkG" post degenerated badly and has caused ill will. Worse, I have caused hassles for a personal friend. That was never my intent.

I doubt any good will be served by a detailed examination of my post and Ming's response. Let it suffice to say that I was out of bounds.

I HEREWITH PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO MING FOR THE INACCURATE STATEMENTS CONTAINED IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

Mea culpa. Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

[Ming]

JR... I appreciate your post.

And I do want to comment on one of the comments I made in the above post.

Originally posted by Ming
Maybe the Historiian shouldn't drink so much if he consideres these the "facts"

I just want to point out that JR and I get together on Friday nights on a weekly basis as part of the "Strategic Gaming Society"... where we sit around and play board games while relaxing and drinking... And we do sometimes drink a lot, and have "wonderful" conversations into the wee hours of the morning.

My comment was meant to imply that maybe his memory of some of those conversations might be questionable... because they are for me some Saturday mornings I by no means meant to imply that he drinks too much on a regular basis...

Sorry about that JR.

So case closed in my books... I'll see you at the next scheduled meeting of the SGS...