Let's butcher Egyptians, 1520ad

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Our first unit to approach Heliopolis was killed by a catapult. We will have to approach the city a different way. We currently have 4 crusaders at our disposal in Shade, more being trained elsewhere in the commune.

Your options:

1. Sail 2 triremes with 4 crusaders to the red X, attacking with second movement points
2. Sail 3 triremes with 6 crusaders to the red X, attacking with second movement points
3. Abandon the plan to capture Heliopolis, a free tech, and a bag of gold.

The Supreme Military Commander recommends option 2. Our musketeer fortified just outside the forest would them march in to defend our new real estate.

[MrWhereItsAt]

What's the catch if we send in 6 crusaders? Will it take longer to get them there? Will it leave us a little more vulnerable somewhere? If not (or even if it DOES take an extra turn or two to get them there), why are we even waiting?

Kill them comrades, KILL!!!

[Hydey]

Get 12 crusaders and take there whole civ

[MrWhereItsAt]

But only in the name of spreading world peace.

Isn't Communism great?!

[Mr. President]

Hit as hard as possible or don't hit at all.

[shade]

4 is good
6 is even better

(btw you say we have 4 crusaders in Shade, I think we can get 4 crusaders of the 2 triremes dwelling in the airea to so we would only need 1 more trireme (maybe we should rushbuild a trireme in Shade) )

little other question: what's the next target(their capital??? )

Shade

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Hey, how about a screenshot?

Why six instead of four? Four might be enough, but six should be guaranteed success. If two of ours die and they have 3 units there (they are probably sending in more units from the east, an attack force of four might not capture the city... Six should avoid this problem...

I'd rather rush another crusader than a trireme. However, if no third trireme is available, it would necessary to pull off the six unit invasion.

[shade]

little side-note
maybe we can leave the crusader and the musketeer where they are now and try to lure some of their units out the city...they can just move to the forestsquare and then they are sitting ducs for our crusader.

(the 6-unit invasion would be usefull if we plan to march on to their capital(6 units ready and if we steal Navigation we get 3 carvels to transport them))

Shade

[-Jrabbit]

We've already seen the result of a skeleton attack presence.
Disaster! Let us learn from history, not repeat it!!

Hit them hard, and preferably below the belt. We must save the infidels from there fat, bourgeois monarch!

BTW, that American city is pretty far from home. Any bribe potential there ya think?

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
We've already seen the result of a skeleton attack presence.
Disaster! Let us learn from history, not repeat it!!

No, that lead musketeer was to draw out the catapult, which didn't move toward Shade. It was a gamble to take the city with the few units we had available - it just didn't work out in our favor. Agreed, more is merrier, as they say.

[CannonFodder]

Kill them! Kill them all!!!

[cavebear]

I can land 6 Crusaders on the Red X and attack Heliopolis on the 8th turn.

Or 4 Crusaders on the Red X and attack on the 7th turn with 2 more Crusaders to follow up on the 8th.

Using only 3 Triremes, and rush-building only the current Crusader in progress in Shade.

[-Jrabbit]

According to the (unanimous so far!!!!) survey, sending 6 on turn 8 is an overwhelming favorite.

Thanks for such specific info!!!

[civman2000]

overwhelming?? unanimous!!

[cavebear]

OK, I've diagrammed it out on a copy of the screenshot of the area. I can't find a flaw. We can hit Heliopolis with 6 Crusaders from the South, pick off any units that approach Shade with a 7th Crusader on a Fortified Musketeer, and it leaves an 8th Crusader and another Musketeer in Shade for dense. Taking Heliopolis on the 8th turn.

I don't want to show it yet (it looks like a diagram of a bar-fight). Plus, I don't want to step on the SMC's toes (I'm just giving him a "number of turns" target to better).

I'll bet the SMC can do better (either in fewer turns, or with our troops better-positioned, or protected, or something).