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**Hydey** · April 25, 2002, 04:53

Originally posted by Shadowlord
A vote for Adamsj is a vote against Hydey - But that's a good thing!

While some may say that Hydey has been "vigilant" in his duties, and "never restful," it is more accurate to note that his actions mainly consisted of (1) repeatedly telling the president to build embassies, (2) expecting the president to drop everything to build said embassies, (3) acting as though the Foreign Ministry is above all other governmental organizations, and (4) wasting everyone's time.

While Hydey may claim that his job as Foreign Minister's purpose was to focus on the Foreign Ministry's goals to the exclusion of everything else, that is not true. It is vitally important to our Great Civilization that all our leaders and advisors see the Big Picture, and put the good of our Civilization above the good of their office.

I ask you, has Hydey looked at the Big Picture? No. He doesn't consider the good of the civilization, except where it aligns with his and his office's goals. He cannot see the Forest of our Civilization because for the single Tree marked "Office of Foreign Ministry."

- Presidential Candidate Shadowlord

After veiwing this and a number of other posts directed at me and recieving a number of PM's It has become clear that I am preventing others from full enjoyment of this democratic game. I have never wished to deminish anyone enjoyment and as such I resign imeadiately from the possition of foreign minister and withdraw from the upcoming election. I would hope these actions will help those people I have upset to go on now and have as much enjoyment in this game as I was having and had hoped to continue having.

To those of you that have problems with me style of play acting for this game, you should now be able to have a nice game with no differing of opinions and everyone getting along nice and happy

**MrWhereItsAt** · April 25, 2002, 06:09

WHAT!?!?!?!

Hydey, please don't listen to the candidates! They are just doing it for the votes. You know what politicians are like in election year! Damn, I was looking forward to you being Foreign Advisor this time around.

They just aren't used to outspoken Aussies like we Kiwis are.

I urge you to reconsider - I'm sure that, with time, these soon-to-be Councillors will come to enjoy having you among their number.

And as for everyone else - I'm ashamed of you. (I need a shaking-head-disapprovingly smiley.) Look what you've done! This game is not for censoring of opinions, nor of isolating certain ppl from participating. I ask everyone to encourage Hydey to stay, and make this term a fun one. We need a strong dissenting voice or three to keep us all honest.

C'mon guys. Do it for democracy - will you stay, Hydey?

**shade** · April 25, 2002, 06:49

I see there is still no-one for the trade post...well...I'll nominate myself for this post...this term I still have some time(not much but more than enough for this job...especially since we will get in a war-time economy)

I see cavebear want's to become next prez...and shadowlord...
the choice won't be easy.
Cavebear has shown to be the perfect cityplanner and therefor would also be a good candidate for prez...but we would lose a great city planner.And what about our friend shadowlord? He's new at the job(has been an active citizen,so knows how things go) and (something he isn't awear of: he has an idea of what's going on in our empire but not in the same detail as the current cabinetmembers...and I think this might be important for the next term).I think the combo Cavebear-Shadowlord would be most beneficial...Cavebear as prez and Shadowlord as his cityplanner.
This way we have someone in control who already knows perfectly what our status is and what can and what can't be done...and Shadowlord can in this time show his magnificens in planning the cities in an even beter way then Cavebear(if that's even possible)...they can work very closely together and teach one-another.And those who learn of the best can only become the best and become next president...president Shadowlord in june.
But this is only my humble oppinion.
No mather what happens,you both have my support.

Shade,King from this moment on

**MrWhereItsAt** · April 25, 2002, 06:56

Congrats on Kingdom, shade. Does this make you King Shade, first King of Apolytonia?

Maybe if I end up running for something this time around I'll get to the level where I can have my own Avatar. Want that Avataaaarrrr!

**MrWhereItsAt** · April 25, 2002, 07:16

YES!!!! It Works!!!

Time for a two-horse race. I proclaim myself a candidate for Trade Advisor, in friendly (if perhaps token

) competition to our incredibly popular President shade.

Just bring it. And if I lose I'd L

ve to be VP. :flutters eyelashes:

**shade** · April 25, 2002, 07:39

good luck

Shade

**MrWhereItsAt** · April 25, 2002, 07:58

Why thank you sir.

<< Adopts HHH like voice >>>

But, ahh. I'm not going to need it, aah. See you at the Pay per View, er, election day.

**James Adams** · April 25, 2002, 08:22

Originally posted by Shadowlord
A vote for Adamsj is a vote against Hydey - But that's a good thing!

While some may say that Hydey has been "vigilant" in his duties, and "never restful," it is more accurate to note that his actions mainly consisted of (1) repeatedly telling the president to build embassies, (2) expecting the president to drop everything to build said embassies, (3) acting as though the Foreign Ministry is above all other governmental organizations, and (4) wasting everyone's time.

While Hydey may claim that his job as Foreign Minister's purpose was to focus on the Foreign Ministry's goals to the exclusion of everything else, that is not true. It is vitally important to our Great Civilization that all our leaders and advisors see the Big Picture, and put the good of our Civilization above the good of their office.

I ask you, has Hydey looked at the Big Picture? No. He doesn't consider the good of the civilization, except where it aligns with his and his office's goals. He cannot see the Forest of our Civilization because for the single Tree marked "Office of Foreign Ministry."

- Presidential Candidate Shadowlord

Thanks, I agree as i should for Shadowlord to be President, and thank him for an indirect support, but what about Our third nominance to run for foreign minister!

**James Adams** · April 25, 2002, 08:34

Hydey. I was only going for votes, not one is being personally. I like you as a person and member of the game. Please continue and go a candid next term.

But where is the third candid!

**Marquis de Sodaq** · April 25, 2002, 09:43

Originally posted by Shadowlord
As a Candidate, I believe I have an obligation to the People to answer truthfully any question or implied question as to my beliefs on any topic concerning our Great Civilization.

How good a politician is he, then?

It's refreshing to see actual debate going on! Our candidates are serious about the job, they want to sway the voters!

As for the post of Supreme Military Commander, there is no debate to have.

**shade** · April 25, 2002, 09:54

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
As for the post of Supreme Military Commander, there is no debate to have.

this is what makes a great Military advisor:
suppres opposition wich hasn't even started yet.

Shade

**Shadowlord** · April 25, 2002, 10:53

As per President Shade's request, I am now officially running for City Planner (in addition to running for President). As City Planner, I will continue to ensure that a steady output of Caravans is available, in addition to ensuring that a large enough military is trained to provide both offense and defense for our Great Civilization, and that we shall be certain to build improvements to boost our research, where they will do good, and improvements to boost our income, where they will do good. (Note: Remember, building a marketplace does no good in a city with less than 2 gold income because it does have a maintenance cost. That is, until we get Adam Smith's.)

This is going to be one very strange election.

P.S. It's funny how the candidates with no opposition are being very quiet now - They must be trying their hardest not to offend anyone by not saying anything. I suggest you folks ask them some questions about their plans, so you have some information to help you decide whether or not to vote on them.

Mr. President, or Vice President, whoever handles this, I have a question.. What happens if no-one runs for a position? And, what happens if only one person runs, and they get less than 50% yes votes? Do they fail to get elected? Is the position appointed? Or do we have the VP handle the duties of that office? (It would give him something to do)

**N35t0r** · April 25, 2002, 11:11

Meh, now everybody is falling over the position of Trade Advisor.

**N35t0r** · April 25, 2002, 11:12

AAAARGH someone took away my cookies from this PC.

*Awrence continues to curse school pcs*

**MrWhereItsAt** · April 25, 2002, 11:37

Shadowlord, the last election we had the VP of the time run a poll with no-confidence options for those who ran unopposed. Some ppl got to vent their spleen, but nobody was given more no-confidence votes than actual votes. I guess this happens again this time. /shrug/

HsFB: are you that Argentinian again?

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