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  • #46
    Anaximander... you seem to have missed the point.

    First,
    As pointed out in the earlier posts, it is indeed impossible to read every post in every thread. By using the words MY, ME, MINE, or I in the thread title, it makes it easier for us to spot another personal ME thread.

    Second,
    One more time since it seems like you are ignoring the fact that it isn't the content that is being closed, it's the number of threads that is being closed. He could post the same thing in one of the already open threads discussing opinions of the game. What difference does it really make if it is posted along with other opinons vs that of it being in a seperate thread? The answer is NO DIFFERENCE!

    You are welcome to your opinion. But it is the opinion of the owners of this site that we should limit the many similiar threads to give threads that have a real difference an opportunity to flourish as well. I'm sorry that you don't like that... But that's the way it is.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #47
      You see now Ming I think that your missing the point. First of all, if the moderators are so swamped that good threads are being dismissed and bad ones falling through the cracks then we obviously need more moderators.

      Secondly, EVERY THREAD IS A PERSONAL OPINION THREAD!!!! No matter how you may phrase the title, unless you are expressing a deductivly valid fact that fits one of the deductivly valid forms, you are expressing a subjective opinion. Would you please just concede that every thread is an opinion thread so the discussion may move on from that point?

      Once you accept that every thread is personal opinion, we can begin discusing which of those opinions should and shouldn't be heard. Now, if we closed down every thread that made refrence to somthing being discussed in another thread then we would have to close down almost every thread on the forums. Now, I really don't think that anyone wants nor expects that. So which threads do you close? On numerious occasions I have ponted out that most of the threads that were locked were junk and should have been locked. It is only when threads that have good content are locked that I take issue. The fact is the only "redundent" threads you were locking were ones that were critical of PTW. If you are going to have a policy, please enforce it equally.

      By the way Ming, you never answered my question, if ArmaGeddin had entitled his post differently, would you have locked it?
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      • #48
        EVERY THREAD IS A PERSONAL OPINION THREAD!!!!
        shouting wont make your point valid

        not every thread is about the general opinion and experiences of someone with the game.
        lets take some examples of the NOT PERSONAL threads:
        -Crash Civilization3X.exe : a solution
        -Hotseat is pathetic
        -Not Constantinople
        -Will other civs attitude be influenced when you attack someone they don't know?
        -Very Annoying Bug

        etc etc etc
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        • #49
          Sigh... One last time... it's not the content, it's the number of threads.

          And to answer your question, YES... it might have taken more time to notice it, but the outcome would have been the same.

          As one of the Owners, MarkG, pointed out, there are already many threads to discuss opinions of the game...
          in the first two pages of the forusm there are plenty of general discussion/opinion threads
          - Give PTW a chance!
          - Kudos to Gamespot
          - Is PTW worth 20 bucks?
          - Fanboys and Whiners
          - is ptw actualy worth it????
          - What do we think of PTW now?
          - Civ3 (PTW) is UNPLAYABLE in its current state
          I see two of those threads that would have been more than appropriate to discuss the issues being raised in that thread.

          There are many other valid topics that are being discussed that do need seperate threads... mostly things that are game related, and not about what your opinion of the game is, is it worth it, or are people returning it.

          So in conclusion, if you don't like the way it is being handled, you are more than welcome to find a site that is more to your liking... because while you are welcome to your opinion, this isn't a Democracy.
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #50
            Originally posted by rah
            I love the way people assume that Mods are watching every second of the day, and if we're not, we're not being fair. We do have real lives.
            That's completely untrue! Ming is here ALL the time, and he follows every post I make, just waiting to nail me for spamming.

            My personal conspiracy theory is that they made me a quasi mod for the civ2 game is that they hoped it would stop my spamming

            Who was it who earlier said that the mods close stuff because it went against their personal view? that's total crap. complete trash.

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            • #51
              Seems pretty normal to me...

              New game is released
              -->> What I Think threads proliferate
              -->> Thread control implemented
              -->> What I Thinkers whine about lack of headlines
              -->> This thread appears in Community.

              What's really interesting is the number of ppl whining about snuffed threads who never go back to the alleged point of it all -- discussing the new game.
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              • #52
                Some more normal....

                Someone who hasnt read the any of the threads in question commenting on them.
                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
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                • #53
                  And that reminds me of the silly "+1 game" it somehow reflects. The actual issue is lost among spam.
                  "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                  • #54
                    Interesting discussion.

                    One thing:

                    "Hotseat is pathetic" sure sounds like an opinion lol.

                    Subjective use of an adjective in the title, tsk tsk I am amazed it didn't get locked.

                    But it does seem Ming did make an attempt to being more fair around here lately and I will acknowledge it here... he just locked a perfectly good, but 'defending ptw' thread, as in omigosh one with a positive slant toward firaxis. He applied the same criteria he and Mark had been claiming they operated under but never exercised until now.

                    So hooray you see I think that's a step in the right direction. Oh darn I shouldn't have said "I think" but that was just "my take on it" lol eat it.


                    Neotek

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                    • #55
                      oh and for the record, the "hotseat is pathetic" thread did have insightful content and did deserve to be open.

                      I was just pointing out its opinionated title to show that like a previous poster said, almost everything in these forums is an opinion.

                      Someone else could have had those same exact hotseat problems and from their perspective posted their opinion that "Oh great! how creative of firaxis to include this nice easter egg espionage feature that allows us to see the whole map of our opponent" LOL, to each his own.


                      Neotek
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                      • #56
                        How about a sticky "Before you post read this" thread at the top of the PTW forum?
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • #57
                          "Hotseat is pathetic" sure sounds like an opinion
                          but isnt yet another general "my 5 minutes review" thread. it addresses a specific issue....

                          look at my cool and obnoxiously sarcastic little gay emoticon weeeee
                          you know, you seem to have some issues with gays. you need to check that...
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                          • #58
                            Lol yes I do Mark thanks for noticing. But comeon you've got to admit that out of all the emoticons that is definitely the most 'precocious' haha.

                            Though this one runs a close second, and he IS purple

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by MarkG
                              but isnt yet another general "my 5 minutes review" thread. it addresses a specific issue....
                              So if I start threads dealing with the 15 or so issues (good and bad) that I have with the game so far, thats better than one thread that gets updated and commented on by other players?
                              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                              If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                              Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                              • #60
                                are you saying that you have issues on 15 topics that there are NO threads about already?
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