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[MarkG]

Originally posted by Infatuation
Yeah it's slow..and the ads (www.apolyton.net/bannercode.html) never ****ing loads on my computer, making it go to an error message, at which I must go back to read the thread.

well, that's ugo, not us

[johndmuller]

I have encountered both good and bad responsiveness seemingly independent of the time of day. Naturally, the amount of use is a factor, but my observations would suggest that it is not the primary culprit in this case.

(Throwing out a few observations in hopes it will turn on an idea bulb for you)

When things are slow, it seems that there is a significant delay (multi seconds) between when I click to xmit and when there is an incoming response (based on watching the flashing lights). Once the response starts, it seems to come in at pretty much max speed; sometimes the incoming will be broken up into several batches with major delays in between.

I have occasionaly "pinged" the site (with whatever the default ping parameters are) and experienced time-outs a significant portion of the time; losing one of the 4 pings is not unusual. Sometimes the DNS lookup will fail also.

If you are not being attacked by some outside agency, I would wonder if your server is maxing out in some department.
-Memory would be a possible chokepoint, although I imagine you have already considered that.
-Some database activity may be an excessive resource hog; perhaps you have a highly inefficient Query built into some of your basic lookup code.
-Perhaps there is an obsolete web address referenced in a frequently used module causing many delays while it times-out. There is sometimes glitching in the advertising routines also.
-Is the CPU utilization reasonably low?
-Is there a hangup in any security/firewall routines you have running?

[Caligastia]

I have been spending less time at Apolyton because its so slow, which is actually quite good as I am getting more study done...

[MarkG]

johndmuller,

as i have posted before, the database calls do not create increased load on the server.

[johndmuller]

Originally posted by MarkG
as i have posted before, the database calls do not create increased load on the server.

Are you saying that both the web server and the database server are humming right along with capacity to spare while users are experiencing degraded response?

[MarkG]

Originally posted by johndmuller

Are you saying that both the web server and the database server are humming right along with capacity to spare while users are experiencing degraded response?

server load has small importance when bandwidth use is maxed out, no?

[TCO]

Mark, will it help if I do more tracerts?

I set up a program to ping you guys as often as possible. (found it on a hackers board).

Hope this helps!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Have any of you gone to the rest of the site (you know the non-forum part)? That is kind of slow too... funny how switching to vBB would have done that .

[Sirotnikov]

the only thing I have left is Avatars, and I'm already viewing 20 posts per page, and still it's slow. the other parts of the site are slow as well.

Could it be that PHP creates greater load than CGI? I thought not...

As the ping and trace are quick it seems indeed like a bandwidth problem.

Maybe you should enforce some light settings on everyone...

[Dr Strangelove]

Well, I've stripped my options down to as light as I can get and I'm still getting a very slow response from the board. The funny thing is that this wasn't much of a problem the first week after the change, but in the past week the problem has gotten very severe. I've noticed that I get a slight increase in speed of response if instead of just left clicking I right click and then click on "Open". I don't know why that would be.

[Chronus]

Yes . . . it has been very slow, especially the last few days.

Is it really because of heavy traffic? I doubt it only because I don't recall ever seeing it this slow before. Surely Apolyton has had busier (if not as busy) days than the last few . . . no?

Well . . . anyway, all the best to you, Dan and Mark, in figuring this out.

[Kull]

Personally I've not had a problem since going back to DSL a few weeks ago (although when I was on dial-up during the switchover.....well, lets not go there). On the other hand plenty of people with even high speed access have complained that the site is almost unusable......including long-timer Tecumseh who just posted to the Scen League that he's ready to bail.

I saw MarkGs earlier post and it's good to know that you guys are looking into this. Whatever the source, this is clearly a serious problem and I truly hope you can come up with a solution.

[Lefty Scaevola]

The page load speed is highly variable for me at different times. any where for less than 1 second to more than 1 minute. This is not occuring at my end since other sites are not so affected.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by GP
Mark, will it help if I do more tracerts?

sometimes, if the server does not seem to send anything to you, doing a ping "wakes up" your connection to it



btw, if you have the light style look at the bottom of the page...

[TCO]

Mark, glad to know that I'm helping to fix the problem by hitting your server with thousands of pings/minute.

I don't know how to turn on the light style. I have whatever is default.