To Iskandar Reza

[MichaeltheGreat]

Since you brought up the subject...

Originally posted by Zorro's Z
So people get banned here after being accused of being a DL, without real proof??

Ironic, this complaint coming from a DL.

Logons Zorro's Z, Voltage, Tiamo and Delete are all DL's of the same poster.


You get to keep one, if you'd like. Email me and let me know which one. (edit - taken care of)


PS - Ann, you're the one who came here and got insulting, so if you get patronized by others, look in the mirror. It's your own conduct that brought it on. You reap what you sow.

[AnnC]

SuperSneak and cpoulos - all are welcome at ACOL, even the obnoxious. So if Stark Fist of Removal wants to come back and bring his buddies, he can do so and we'll enjoy it as much as we've enjoyed the other trolls who have come and gone.

And to answer your question, SuperSneak, here's what I'm trying to accomplish: I find it appalling that Apolyton treat their users the way they do. And I want to let the Apolyton banned know that there's another place they can go. This shouldn't trouble Apolyton since they obviously don't want the people they've banned to be here.

Furthermore, let me point out that my posting this thread raised the visibility of Iskandar's situation and got him un-banned. I think that's a pretty significant accomplishment.

[Chris 62]

Doesn't ring true...

Ha Ha, three swipes! You're quite the little spitfire, Annie!
Of course, that this is really so you can promote your site goes without saying, eh Annie?

[Iskandar Reza]

yes it is.

thank you AnnC

to Ming, SuperSneak,

I'm not mad. i'm surprised it happened to me, little low profile me. but then, it's because i'm low profile that it happened.

aah. don't worry about it.






but can i have a custom avatar?

[SuperSneak]

I see your point entirely, Ann, but I think that everyone needs to remember that the origins of these problems are in miscommunication, not in malice.
You are turning this into an "us vs. them" situation, with bad intent.
I really enjoy ACOL and its style. I also enjoy Apolyton.

I think trolling is generally tactless, and, though you claim its all funny ha-ha all around, I don't agree...stupid as they were, Stark's posts were pretty hateful and rude. Whether they are taken that way or not by their targets is another thing.

You seem to have made it your personal crusade to criticize this site all of a sudden, which, coming from a site owner, seems highly unprofessional. Maybe you see it as a golden opportunity to get more posters? I don't know...but you and Mike are both class people, though obviously different, and this credits no one.

And in the middle of all this, you don't seem to acknowledge at all that your site members decided initially to come here and stir up trouble--you only defend them in the fallout. I guess its a big yuck to you that Kitty comes here and makes racist remarks? What's the justification for that? Oh, its just a joke, I see. Well I was essentially joking about Ice being her DL, but it had negative repurcussions, didn't it?

I'm certainly not innocent, but try to keep with the spirit of both sites...

I'm not saying you have to like Apolyton, how it's run, who runs it, what is stands for...but it has a massive membership and it would surely be chaotic if it didn't have some rules...your smaller traffic flow insures that ACOL can take the reins off.

I think you and Mike both are lowering yourselves...that a sense of objectivity has been lost.

*sigh* Why are Mommy and Daddy yelling?*

[Iskandar Reza]

another example of why world peace is ridiculuos. silly miss universes

[Tear of the Komsomol Girl_old]

I have been trying to thread about cold war is European creation but seems there is some problem. Instead, I have tried today to understand this problems in here. It looks very similar to old forum problems. I have some observations

Maybe cpulous I think you misunderstand Annc's reference - there is thread on ACOL addressed to you by OldWarrior_42 who says that you are Yank (link is http://www.planetacol.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/015399.html). Maybe you may not have see the joke that Annc does?

Also, there is record of mistaken bannings here. 6 months ago I and MikeH were both banned wrongly (sorry, don't know if links are still exist). Both were eventually corrected although you are maybe lucky that this is dones so fast in your case.

[AnnC]

SuperSneak, no I'm not trying to get more posters. Since I don't sell advertising at ACOL, I don't have a reason to. People can come to ACOL if they want to, but if they want to go somewhere else, it's ok by me.

I took the time to create this thread because of my sympathy for Iskandar's plight (and for the other people who have been banned at Apolyton). And I want them to know that if they are not welcome at Apolyton, there's another site they can use.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Sneakster - I didn't start it. I don't keep bringing it back up. But I'll be damned if I just sit back and let someone take swipes at me, and keep it up even when I don't respond. I've actually been fairly restrained in my responses so far.

I'll respond to those little snipes, sometimes, but I'm not the one who's pushing this little agenda. I'm not in the habit of taking crap from anyone, and I see no reason to make an exception for this one.

Meanwhile, while talking about how welcome everyone is, and how ACOL never bans people, over at ACOL she singles me out by name, in a thread she started this morning that I hadn't even posted in at the time, and talking (again) about how she might ban me (and LTEC!, by extension, since we're inside a firewall).

Nothing like a little naked hypocrisy, is there?

[SuperSneak]

And I want them to know that if they are not welcome at Apolyton, there's another site they can use.

That's just what I mean..."not welcome"? Come on, that is such a negative filter you are employing!

This whole thing is ridiculous...and not worth my time. I've made my apologies...if you guys want to pick nits, that's your business. But I have too much exposure to ill will in real life, so, I'm outta here.
Good luck to everyone in winning their respective pointless arguments.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Since we're on the subject of bannings, Zorro's Z is unbanned, since that's the name he wants to keep.

BTW, this is not an Off-topic thread, but related to the site, so it's being moved to Apolyton Community.

[AnnC]

What MtG says is true: if ACOL ever bans anyone, it will be him. If you follow the link to the thread I posted at ACOL, you'll see that.

[Iskandar Reza]

oh let bygones be bygones already.... i don't know why apolyton community is at odds with acol.

enough.. let it be.... ahhh.. what the hell.. human nature... go on... wont be resolved, like palestine and israel.

[Gatekeeper]

Everyone:

Well, heck. Let's send a message to both Apolyton and ACOL — let's not frequent either site until the "adults" can settle things amicably (preferably in private). In the meantime, maybe I can find some adults over at NewsMax.

CYBERAmazon

[AnnC]

CYBER, I agree with your sig line:

"You have to stand for something, or you will fall for anything."