Is ACOLKitty's current 41 day ban too harsh?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by AnnC
MtG, 1.5 to 3 percent is an appallingly high rate.

In the entire history of ACOL, only 6 threads have been deleted. Five were vandalized by a smilie-bomber and I couldn't repair them, and the sixth was a porn thread that the originator refused to edit.

I am embarassed that you were ever a Cleaner (moderator) at ACOL.

Sorry AnnC, but I've got to raise a point here. I've only posted about 5 or 6 threads at ACOL. One was a risque slice of "gentleman's humour" containing a few earthy references. After I posted it someone responded that you might delete it, and when I returned a day later it had vanished from the board. Of course, this could be a mere coincidence, but at the time I just assumed it had been deleted.

So I just naturally assumed that the deletion rate of my threads was about 20%. This isn't misinformation or propaganda as I have no interest in your clash with MtG. However I get the impression that a spot of revisionism is taking place with ACOL's reputation.

[MikeH]

Re: A lot fo talk about nothing...

Originally posted by cpoulos
Seems to me that Kitty, MikeH and the ACOL bunch got what they wanted, which was to get people talking about their site at Apolyton. From the looks of things, this whole stunt was based around just that. It leads me to believe that in the 'get a life' department, many are sorely lacking...

I know, I can't believe I got distracted by the real world for a whole 3 days and couldn't respond!

[Chris 62]

I agree...

Originally posted by MikeH


I know, I can't believe I got distracted by the real world for a whole 3 days and couldn't respond!

Yes, the real world can be quite distracting...

[East Street Trader]

We should give MtG time to settle.

ACOL is a fine site and, if it recovered a bit more of its gaming soul I reckon I'd register there.

Besides which, Ming deserves somewhere to chill.

Contributions here from ACOLKitty, MikeH and, latterly, AnneC are welcome.

The owners and mods do well to cut more slack for OT than for for the on topic forums.

41 days is OTT but, look, the guy is learning his trade. And for the hours he puts in if he does get some petty pleasure back he's earned it.

A part of what ACOLKitty brings is contradiction. She professes libertarian views - lauding ACOL's lack of moderation - but then makes a complaint to Poly admins/mods when War4 elects a username she disapproves of. She professes lesbian orientation but spends lengthy periods here and at ACOL flirting with a substantially male population. She professes liberal views on equality type matters but throws around comments about "damned jews".

Good stuff all. A poster I'd be glad to have wander in to my local. But I'd not expect a quiet time, I think.

[MichaeltheGreat]

EST - Steve 5304/Saddam/ et al got himself up to 38 days, with various things. After a private conversation, where we came ot and understanding about the rules, he got unbanned in 11 or 12 days. Attitude counts for a lot, both in increasing, or decreasing, ban length. Giancarlo and Horse both got two weeks, but were out in 5 days.

Just because a ban is listed as X days, doesn't mean it will actually be that length. Very few actually are, but if someone really gets an attitude about being held to the rules, they can talk themselves into that position. Or, if they chill, they can talk themselves back out of that position.

[Lefty Scaevola]

LOL at all of you. Do you not realize that you are experimental subjects to be manipulated and studied by KITTY. I recognize her modus operandi. She is studying a psychological profile of the gamers/posters here, including most particularly authority structure and reaction thereto. Squeakity-squeak little white rats, and discover another meaning of her handle, KITTY. Yet she is really fond of some of her test subjects, and I am well amused by and somewhat fond of her, but not fooled by her.

[Iskandar Reza]

is she a psyche student or something?

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Iskandar Reza
is she a psyche student or something?

A psychology professional.

[SuperSneak]

They say the most disturbed people are the ones who go into that field.
I should know...I have a degree in psychology as well.

I'm guessing she's a TA at best with an emphasis in something touchy feely like "methods of small group communication" or "developmental psychology for the bisexual child".

[Lefty Scaevola]

She practices some sort of clinical counseling, I believe. I have no idea of what setting she is in, or what category of counseling she deals with.

[MichaeltheGreat]

She's doing some kind of lab testing for her post-doc. I don't remember the details. Kitty likes to play games, likes to get attention, but is, when you get down to it, a totally OK human being.

If it gets to something serious related to her profession - someone talking about suicide, or whatever, she drops the normal Kitty act and is serious and totally professional about it.

[AnnC]

Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny

Sorry AnnC, but I've got to raise a point here. I've only posted about 5 or 6 threads at ACOL. One was a risque slice of "gentleman's humour" containing a few earthy references. After I posted it someone responded that you might delete it, and when I returned a day later it had vanished from the board. Of course, this could be a mere coincidence, but at the time I just assumed it had been deleted.

So I just naturally assumed that the deletion rate of my threads was about 20%. This isn't misinformation or propaganda as I have no interest in your clash with MtG. However I get the impression that a spot of revisionism is taking place with ACOL's reputation.

Bugs, what is your ACOL userid? and do you remember (approximately) the subject line of the thread?

The deleted porn thread was posted by "annoying_git". Is that login yours?

[MichaeltheGreat]

You still have the nerve to come here and make baseless accusations?

Bugs ****ing Bunny is Lazarus and the Gimp, formerly known as Trappist, one of the best posters and writers on several Civ and SMAC sites, going back to the heyday of alpha.owo, at least. That's when I met him.

[AnnC]

MtG, what on earth are you talking about? I'm just trying to find out which of Bugs's threads was deleted.

[Trippin Daily]

MtG, take some time off from responding to Ann to cool off. Ann, I suggest likewise. I tihnk it is what you both need. I believe this blew up from many small comments turning into something large and messy. Ann wasn't targetting you with what she was saying. You two both know that when I'm asking for peace that someone drastically wrong must be going on, as I love flame wars, but not one taken personally between friends.

MtG: I realize you trust your memory sometimes more than facts, and Ann, I realize that you are taking a huge some of your own money out of your pocketbook, for no monetary gain. I believe this has brought out the worst in both of you. That doesn't mean it has to last indefinitely. So, please, both of you. Take some time off of this senseless flaming (who would have though, me calling flaming sensless) and let it die off. Then approach each other privately and dicuss things politely. I'm sure you two can reconcile your differences.

Laz, and any others who are wondering. Ann only edits threads which will cause her to lose the server. She apperently now has the server based on a company who caters to a large corporation, so they don't tolerate pornography, or piracy links in the least. Anything else is acceptable (well other than MtG at the moment, but hopefully that will pass - and I believe it will if both can keep their guns holstered).