Anti-semitic crap in Off-Topic

[Eli]

*cough* Imran in "Shoud we be threatened bu Egypt"

And I dont give a **** on his smileys!

[OldWarrior_42]

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</font>*cough* Imran in "Shoud we be threatened bu Egypt"
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Exactly right.

And he wasn't the only one advocating the extermination of whole groups of people.

My wife's mother is Sicilian....her father is Hungarian Jew. It bothers me. But when I see someone get warned and then told how this is taken seriously and not tolerated...and then I see other threads where nothing is said to certain people then I tend to think that a certain poster is warned due to a possible past type of facade/personna as seen by admins.

Just be equal in how you deal with these things and leave out the personal feelings.

I expect abit of professionalism from certain people and sometimes I get frustrated when I don't see it.

[Winston]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by OldWarrior_42 on 02-02-2001 08:40 AM</font>
Just be equal in how you deal with these things and leave out the personal feelings.

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Can't be done. Sorry.

[OldWarrior_42]

Spoken by a true professional.

[Captain Obvious]

So I guess the moral of the story here is that people from acol can't spout hate, but if you kiss certain people's ass you can spout all the hate you want?

Your daughter wouldn't be crying Laz if you gave her more attention then you give to someone who obviously doesn't care what moro... sorry, you think. I also have a friend who would be refered to by you as a gimp. You know, he hates being called that. Seems it makes him feel bad. I think I'll have him come and see your name. Have him complain... but oh wait, he has skin thicker than wet tissue paper. Sratch that one out.

It was lacking in wit, but I wasn't serious... I could be serious, but then I wouldn't get in trouble. I would also become as backwards as many of the inbred hate mongers here. Seems if your serious about your hate here, you get away with it.

Hear that Kitty, we can bash people here if we are serious about it. Oh, and we put a smiley behind our post (even though we don't mean the smiley, just like others). I think kissing Mark's ass has something to do with it, but I'm not sure. We'd have to ask Imran.

What I see in this forum are mainly thin skinned kids who like to spout hate towards others, but when it is directed at them, even in jest, they can't take it.

[SuperSneak]

My God! What a bunch of nit picking idiocy.
Espousing Hitler and Duke is idiotic, yet tolerable.
Espousing their belief in the extermination of a race is completely ridiculous. It is an example of your infantile and witless sense of humor. It would take a comedic master to make that even remotely humorous--and you aint it.
As for L&TG's handle...interesting point, but a bit on the grasping side. A direct threat to someone is one thing...indirect offense, taken in personal context when the offender is unaware of the implications, is a misunderstanding. It is also based on a movie character.
Grow some armor, Brian. How often do you see/hear the word bastard used? Well, I'm one, but I've learned that it is not personal. Sure, it is a reminder that people often do not consider the impact of their words, but learn to wear it as a badge of honor. Now we get to join the untold millions who are disparaged by society. Gee, aren't we special.
Captain Dipstick has a valid point. We cannot expect moderation to be perfect, but when someone of his limited intelligence and sensitivity wields "humor" as a blunt and savage instrument, it is best for smarter and wiser people to step in and do something about it.
We can only hope that the mods are as discerning as possible (which they usually are) and continue to apply the same principles to all cases.
Captain Idiot, however, needs to work on his limited skills. Genocide aint funny, pal.
*sigh*


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[MarkG]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Captain Obvious on 02-02-2001 12:57 PM</font>
What ever happened to you saying you leave off topic to Ming?
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</font>I'll follow your suggestion... I'm going down the first page of off topic and coming back here and reporting all hate post.
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[Captain Obvious]

Here you go Mark... I looked at about 7 threads, 3 of which had some form of hate in them... especially the last thread listed.
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum23/HTML/019729.html?19

Sgt. Sheets makes racist remarks about Germans after implying that Greenspan is great because he is a Jew. Can't deny the racism in this one.
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum23/HTML/019760.html?13

Seeker calls a whole nationality fools... using criteria which would apply to many nations, but he only talks about Russia. Not that bad, but not good either... calling a whole nationality stupid.
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum23/HTML/019662.html?100

Natan makes the lovely statement that all arabs are big mouthed.

Imran says a few choice words...
"Damn those evil Arabs who took in Jews, allowed them to live under Muslim states without persecution. Allowed them to have high status in Muslim governments, allowed them to live their lives.What do you mean they shouldn't be mad when it was realized that the Jews were basically planning a coup? Jews started the violence. Hell, The Arabs should have pushed them to Christian countries and let them rot! That is what we get for helping the bastards. Ungrateful ****s!"
"I'm saying the Jewish state of Israel should be killed. It is an illegal construct that should be deconstructed. If killing is needed for that to come about so be it." Advocating the murder of Jews here.
"Hell, every day I get more and more convinced that Hitler should have finished the job. I ain't joking. They ****ed over my fellow Muslims in Palestine by driving them out of their home. Then THEY act self rightous? **** that ****! Nuking Tel Aviv seems to be the only thing that can tell the world that these bastards won't get away with their crap!"

I'm glad I'm not living in Imrans twisted little views of the world.

Taurus makes a kind statement. "I say that Hitler got himself the wrong target, he should killed all the Arabs and Muslims instead.
But that's what Israel is for, right?
We will do this job as it should be done!" I can feel the love, no hate coming from him.

These are only examples found after browsing a total of maybe six to eight threads around in the past 24 hours, and not reading any of them in detail. I'm sure there are many many more. The sad thing about all of this is that these people are serious about there remarks it seems. I even avoided the religous threads, as that wouldn't be fair to the hate-mongers to bag them there.

SuperSnk: Yeah, I'm grasping, but isn't that what Laz is doing.. or is he just so gullible to think that such obvious trolls are real. I didn't say Genocide was funny, what was funny was that people took it so seriously while ignoring the rest of the hate in the forums - some of which implies genocide as well. It was so obvious I that it was a troll. The point of the post was to see how many people would bite at something so obvious. No one that I talked to thought they would, as it was obvious. I proved them wrong. I'll do subtle later on... probably next month when I can change my name again. Until then, its only OBVIOUS..hence the name. Read my profile, what does it say? Messing with gullible people.

[MikeH]

CapOb, I know what point you are making I'm not sure I agree with your methods. As ACOL's been so slow recently I've been spending a lot of time here and mainly staying out of the kind of threads you've been posting about. It's easy to fool a forum. We've all done it on ACOL I'm sure. I don't think it proves anything.

I dunno there are some cool people here, some of whom I met last weekend. You ACOL guys know what I'm like, my problem is that I believe everyone has a right to their opinion even if I really emphatically don't agree with it.

You know there is that old ACOL stereotype of the Apolyton posters bashing their heads against brick walls in the OT about gun control and neither side giving an inch either side? The problem is the more I stay here the more I realise that they don't really take it seriously here (well not the English posters anyway). Then there's some of us from ACOL with our superiority complex about being unmoderated who have a problem with this place but whatever we do won't change the rules here, we really are just banging our heads against a brick wall so is there any point?

Personally I'm posting in the threads I like here, avoiding the ones I don't.

I would like there to be a bit more consistency in the moderation here but it's always going to happen that posters who've been somewhere longer are more tolerated than new posters. I wish that wasn't true but I don't see how it can't be. Familiarity doesn't breed contempt it breeds acceptance.

Plus despite him deleting 4 of my threads in a day I actually quite like Ming and pissing him off makes me feel a bit guilty.

Anyway, do what you feel. That's what I do.

[Lazarus & the Gimp]

That's an interesting phenomenon. Go toe to toe with a troll, and nine times out of ten they'll drop their mask and attempt a break for the moral high ground. They'll also start taking things seriously.

Second interesting point. Until I watched "Pulp Fiction", I had never heard the expression "gimp" and had no idea what it meant until someone mentioned it here a couple of months ago. Unlikely claim? Hardly. It just never made the journey to Somerset.

Still, as I've offered here on several occasions, if anyone is offended by it, I'll change it. Well Brian? Well Trippin'? Your call....

Incidentally, Trippin', thanks for the crack about my daughter. You're a real prince, aren't you? I find myself asking "Could this be the same Trippin' I once saw steaming to the defence of Ajli in a froth of self-righteous moral fury? Surely not."

There have been serious hate mongers here. They don't get away with it. I, and several others, do what we can.

Your call.

[SuperSneak]

I imagine Trippin' is about 14 years old? Right?
We've commonly accepted that people's family members are strictly off limits, CO.
Please abide by at least that much, ok?

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[Eli]

Sneak, dont exaggerate...


9 is more likely.
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[Lazarus & the Gimp]

Nope. Trip's in his early thirties, unless my memory deceives me.

[ACOLKitty]

He is in his early 20s.

I like Ming too.

I have found that there are 3 groups of posters. The nuts, they post in the steriotypical threads, gun control, christ for life, that sort f thing. 2- The normal (OK, bad phrase) who post in the more entertaining threads, and 3- floaters. I post in any thread that looks decent. Most of these are by the normal or floaters.

I also post in the nut threads if they are new. If a crazy thread is under 20 or so replies I will post something just to get them riled up. These people are there to mentally masturbate. I can just imagine them tugging on a fist of hair, pounding into the keyboard, foamy spit frothing, replying to me.

Trip is just not as subtle as I am. Where I will imply something horrible and wait for a reaction, then custom my false beliefs to the outrage expressed, he goes in full force to piss everyone off. (I get a good laugh at least from him)

I try to walk an entertaining edge. Also, if one of the non nuts gets upset I send them a PM to explain. DanS got really upset about one thing. I sent him a message and he decided it was funny. Ming has said that he laugs his ass off while deleting my threads. I am just making him enjoy his job!

In the end however, I agree with Trip's statement. I have read thread after thread of hatefull propaganda. I have seriously mentioned my problems with some things to Ming as MarkG said to do. They are still there. Trip was just pointing out a truth the worst way, by showing a mirror. The racist comments are obvious. A different problem may be a point of perspective. The evangelistic threads are extreely offensive. I get the feeling that most christians look at it, roll thier eyes and accept that there are people like that. It is different for non-christians. If a group of Witnesses or Mormons started spamming the forum with antichristian threads would they last? Apolyton has numerous gay posters. There have been plenty of nuts slandering us.

So MikeH, I encourage you to continue to do goofy entertaining things with me. I will continue as I have, making Ming post <center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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Trip. Good examples. You have only scratched the surface.

Oh and one last thing.

MIKEH IS A DEFECTOR!!!!!!!!!!

[Lazarus & the Gimp]

If that was Trip's intention, Kitty, then the people he most pissed off were his natural allies. As far as I could see, it was just another raging bigoted **** or crass clown who badly needed a good slap. As I couldn't provide that service I was restricted to just calling him an arsehole, like I would anyone else who posted crap like that.

Personally I think it was just trolling, however.
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