Moderation Complaint Thread # 29304821

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dookie with an intellgent comment on religion?! ROTFLOL!!! Yeah right, and I'm the Pope!

And Elections are more SPAM than the Coffee Shop!

Good job, Ming!

[reismark]

Ming: I'm not for or against your actions, but here's something to think about concerning the "election" thread... while you were away, MLeonard was almost solely responsible for all acts of moderation on the OT, and he decided to let it slide. Maybe you should have asked him why he let it be before you acted....

From what I remember, these elections Ming shut down were the first ones attempted since the originals (but it's possible that I'm wrong because there were times when I wouldn't be able to get on ACS for weeks). I originally tried to speak out against the elections, but the server crapped out on me when I tried to post that message THREE times. Here's something for GS and the election supporters to think about: The original set of elections just happens to be the dominating influence behind the imposement of moderation on the OT. (Translation: Elections turn to revolutions and flame war. Soon-after result: Moderation).

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[Andz83]

hmm... I can just think of another psychosis... Ming's -psychosis...

MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Provost Harrison]

I bet Mings got a cybersquint now because of all those s

[Xuenay]

I think the problem here is that Ming just can't admit that he is wrong.

Face it Ming, the majority of people disagree with your judgement. I've counted at least three or four people saying that you're wrong, while you seem to be alone.

It might be your job, but people make mistakes. We all accept that. Just admit that you made a mistake. We wont hold it against you.

Or are you afraid that you'll lose your reputation as a dictator ?

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"Now Lone Star, you will see that Evil will always triumph, because Good is Dumb!"
-- Dark Helmet

[Ming]

When I'm wrong, at least I admit it... (unlike some people here) But in both the cases mentioned here, I stand by my opinion.

When it comes down to a matter of opinion, it's just one persons opinion vs another. I think my opinion is right, and you think yours is. No big deal. It doesnt' surprise me that people disagree when it comes to moderation of the forums... If it was up to them, there would be no moderation. But that is not the case... there is a moderator here, and I'm one of them.
So I do the best job I can.

Frankly, I don't care if some people disagree. Heck, sometimes even the moderators interpret the rules differently. That's life. Deal with it!


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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

[John-SJ]

Hi Ming,

IMHO I don't think you've ever (that I can remember) overstepped your bounds as moderator. In fact, there are many times when I wonder at your patience!

To the other posters in this thread, this is not a "kiss up job", that's not something I do. But a lot of opinions are being expressed here, I just thought I'd take the opportunity to express mine, and thank Ming for a great (and often thankless) job. Thanks Ming!

John-SJ

[Murgatroyd]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by reismark on 09-07-2000 02:48 PM</font>
(Translation: Elections turn to revolutions and flame war. Soon-after result: Moderation).

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This is a classic example of the logical fallacy known as "hasty generalization." As any scientist or mathematician could tell you, you cannot draw valid conclusions from one data point.

Murgatroyd
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Repeal the 1 Thread/8 Hour Limit!

[SuperSneak]

Ming...you delete a thread that has one post about fantasizing and a vague allusion to onanism in it, yet allow another one with numerous references to penis grabbing in it to continue?
What's the difference?
Objectivity--look it up.

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Bring it!

"How ridiculous and how strange, to be surprised by anything that happens in life." Marcus Aurelius (Meditations)

[Ming]

Yeah SuperSneak... complain all you want... blah blah blah...

If you want to play the "let's see what I can get away" game, fine... but don't expect me to play.


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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

[Andz83]

interesting that neither Ming nor anyone else reacted to PH's or my - related posts, which were, in fact, very stupid...

stop complaining about that stuff, folks, just adapt to the laws and rules!!

[SuperSneak]

Ok....case closed!
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[reismark]

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Murgatroyd on 09-08-2000 11:11 AM</font>
This is a classic example of the logical fallacy known as "hasty generalization." As any scientist or mathematician could tell you, you cannot draw valid conclusions from one data point.
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I said it was the DOMINATING INFLUENCE, NOT the sole cause. All I remember is that about two or three weeks after the revolutions following the elections, we got "stuck" with Ming. Besides, you weren't even around yet when the original elections occurred (unless you're a re-registered vet), so how can you say that without any knowledge of just how much negative influence the elections had on the OT?


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tjp25@cornell.edu | reismark@nycmail.com | GO ITHACA FLAME! - AFFL Leader
"The Seventh Seal shall not go under!"
Vote Gore/Lieberman 2000: Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow
Founder, Apolyton Cornellian Underground - Study By Day, Plot for World Domination by Night
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by reismark (edited September 08, 2000).]</font>

[Murgatroyd]

However, because of changed conditions (now there are two moderators, and people know about the potential problems), the previous elections cannot be treated as a valid precedent. There is no way you can claim that you know that there would be problems with new "elections" based on your knowledge of the previous ones.

No, I wasn't here for the previous elections. Did people actually take them seriously?

Murgatroyd

[Ming]

HA HA HA HA... I was here for them.

And reismark was correct... Thanks to the last bunch of elections, you all did get Me!

So yeah... they caused a lot of disruption to the OTF.
And yes, you are correct. I can't predict the future.
But I am allowed to play a hunch


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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net