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  • #31
    Originally posted by Rasputin


    and what is a CPA member ???
    Coalition Provisional Authority

    They'll have more time after June 30th.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Skanky Burns
      you class me with people who post "one smilie" posts.

      I can't help but feel that is an attack against me.
      Now why would you feel that way

      Jamski has a point though, he DOES post a lot of really helpful stuff in many forums. OTOH, Im not sure that just because a post isnt in Community, proves its not spam. Ive heard things about the Rec Commons in SMAC, for example.......
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • #33
        CPA actually means Communist Party of Apolyton here.

        As for the lists and the spam charge, I can answer with a heartfelt "meh". If people like them, go for it. If not, do away with them. As for the +1 charge, WHO ****ING CARES. I've never posted for the sake of increasing post count, even if the posts themselves weren't all that enlightening or important. A lot of the "spam" in the thread is just to entertain others, and isn't that why we're here? To have a good time?
        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Theben
          As for the lists and the spam charge, I can answer with a heartfelt "meh". If people like them, go for it. If not, do away with them. As for the +1 charge, WHO ****ING CARES. I've never posted for the sake of increasing post count, even if the posts themselves weren't all that enlightening or important. A lot of the "spam" in the thread is just to entertain others, and isn't that why we're here? To have a good time?
          Play hangman.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt and now alva too


            *Sbip *, I agree completely. The lists were entertaining, and a small amount of spam was sort of expected. I am horrified at what the May thread(s!) became.
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
            Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt

              The lists were entertaining, and a small amount of spam was sort of expected. I am horrified at what the May thread(s!) became.
              I completely agree with MWIA. The lists have been very entertaining as well as some of the comments. But we should all try to self restraint a little so that it does not become a mere +1 mechanism. I mean does anybody really thinks that the +1 is that important?
              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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              • #37
                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                Now why would you feel that way

                Jamski has a point though, he DOES post a lot of really helpful stuff in many forums. OTOH, Im not sure that just because a post isnt in Community, proves its not spam. Ive heard things about the Rec Commons in SMAC, for example.......
                You as well as others might have heard about the Rec Commons most probably because of me. I used every opportunity to criticize Jamski and Skanky for their drinking feast there. And they heard me, and they are not doing it now. The Rec Commons is still a thread for light hearted chattings, but posters are more self constrainted and the thread is filled less with posts with mere +1s.

                I agree with many that the purpose we are here is to have a good time. If you feel your post will bring something useful to others, be it a helping hand with strategies, or a light hearted comment that could make somebody laugh, by no means post it. If you are posting your post because you want to get one more post count, please remember, there are things that people who actually read posts will notice, that is outside of the number of post counts.
                Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                • #38
                  I like the lists. I find this stuff very interesting. Spam, what is spam?? and why is making a big deal about it any less spammy?? Depending on one's point of view, anything might be considered spam--or a troll--to someone.

                  That said, the quality of the postings have recently fallen off across the AC forum. For example, telling me you are working hard at achieving 100 ppd is like a magician revealing the trick. What's the fun in that?? Use some creativity for goodness sake!! This is ALL about YOU entertaining ME, and everyone else too, of course. So, as long as folk take more pride in their postings here, keep the lists coming.

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                  Monk
                  Last edited by Bloody Monk; May 25, 2004, 17:33.
                  so long and thanks for all the fish

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bloody Monk
                    I like the lists. I find this stuff very interesting. Spam, what is spam?? and why is making a big deal about it any less spammy??
                    Its not (Less spammy) Its called Metaspam. Whether or not most the more recent posts to this thread fall into that category, you may want to contemplate.
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jamski

                      Firstly I find it extremely insulting to be called a spammer. Spam posts are posts you ignore, spam e-mail is deleted without being read, spam mail goes straight into the bin. By calling someone a spammer you are saying that their posts are worthless - that they are posting for the sake of getting more posts, or that their posts are lacking in any intrinsic worth.
                      Like it or not, people are using "spam" to refer to plentiful short posts of questionably on-topicness.
                      So. I'll start by asking nicely, but my crusade against spam has begun. It will not be halted. I saw what happened on other forums when spam was allowed to run unchecked too long, and I spoke against it then, but was ignored. The forum almost died. I won't let it happen to the forum I love.
                      Not allow?
                      I don't want to tell the mods how to do their job, but the best idea would be to move these lists to the OTF. We can have the same discussion - but I'll bet you my last Euro there is HALF the posts in a lists thread in the OT and from more different people when no one gets a +1 from commenting on other people getting +1s.
                      Here, I actually agree with you. Seems like something that rather belongs in OTF.
                      There. My piece is said. Thankyou for your time, and don't point the Finger of Spam my way. You know who you are.
                      /me points Finger of Spam at Jamski.
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
                        CPA members are never even at the top
                        I'm a CPA member too tass. Although, I guess I'm not at the top either.
                        Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                        • #42
                          I'd like the lists to continue, because they are fun. However, if Ming wanted to post at the top saying "oi, if it gets out hand I'm watching " that would probably be a good thing.

                          As to the wider issue, Jamski isn't trolling, he is serious. On some of his points I can sympathise: those who posts unintelligible posts regularly are not in the same class as those who post a lot but more thoughtfully, even when posting frivolously, so to speak.

                          However, I too fail to see the distinction between the A/C spam in Raz's threads and the spam in the Rec Commons threads, which was truly much worse.

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                          • #43
                            The lists are perfect spammer detectors, especialy the shorter time ranges.
                            Creator of the Civ3MultiTool

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                            • #44
                              To be fair, I bring you different flavors of spams:

                              Heart of Fire Tracking Tread at the AC-Multiplaying Started 4/22/04, total posts 491
                              English thread at the AC-General/Help/Strategy forum Started 5/7/04, total posts 265
                              Recreation Commons - Twelfth Floor: Unity II Departure Lounge at the AC-Democracy Team Game forum Started 5/5/04, total posts 282
                              May List and May Lists threads at the Apolyton/Community forum Started 5/3/04, total posts 651

                              For people who have time to browse through these samples, which flavor do you like?

                              I of course like all kind of flavors, but I would like to say that the first flavor is my favorate. It is so very rich.
                              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

                              Grapefruit Garden

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Gramphos
                                The lists are perfect spammer detectors, especialy the shorter time ranges.
                                You mean Ming doesn't discourage the lists because he wants Raz to dig his own grave?

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