Lists ???

[Jamski]

I've voted now.

I'm not against the lists per se but I don't think they require more than 700 comments each month. The best solution would be if after Ras posted the lists they were locked (and stickied for a month?) to avoid this insane filthy spamming.

Keep the lists, cut the spam - and me glad I'm not the mod of this forum, or there would have been at least some warnings after the last two "lists threads" turned into huge spamfests.

BEST solution would be to post the lists in the OTF where they belong with all the other crap.

-Jam

[Dis]

whatever you want to do is okay by me.

I have no strong feelings one way or another.

why am I making this post you ask.

No, not for just another +1.

I had to post this because none of the poll options properly reflects my opinion.

[Qilue]

Originally posted by Jamski
I've voted now.

I'm not against the lists per se but I don't think they require more than 700 comments each month. The best solution would be if after Ras posted the lists they were locked (and stickied for a month?) to avoid this insane filthy spamming.

Keep the lists, cut the spam - and me glad I'm not the mod of this forum, or there would have been at least some warnings after the last two "lists threads" turned into huge spamfests.

BEST solution would be to post the lists in the OTF where they belong with all the other crap.

-Jam

Could we have the real Jamski back?

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Jamski
I've voted now.

I'm not against the lists per se but I don't think they require more than 700 comments each month. The best solution would be if after Ras posted the lists they were locked (and stickied for a month?) to avoid this insane filthy spamming.

Keep the lists, cut the spam - and me glad I'm not the mod of this forum, or there would have been at least some warnings after the last two "lists threads" turned into huge spamfests.

BEST solution would be to post the lists in the OTF where they belong with all the other crap.

-Jam

Whatever your reasons for suddenly questionably changing tack, I agree completely. The lists were entertaining, and a small amount of spam was sort of expected. I am horrified at what the May thread(s!) became.

[Paddy]

let the lists be expanded upon

and what is so wrong with the community having a chat about them

/me pours a long cold beer

maybe that sheep really is the puppet master

[duke o' york]

I'm happy if the bosses are happy with them, but there was an inordinate amount of posts for the last listing.

[Dis]

it should have stopped at 500.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Qilue
Could we have the real Jamski back?

The boy who delights in crying wolf is Jamski.

I find it nearly impossible to believe he's serious. Even Ming responded to his complaint with a dismissive note.

I honestly have to wonder what it would take for me to actually believe Jamski was serious. My thinking is that it would take quite a lot.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Qilue
Could we have the real Jamski back?

Seconded.

If a mod thinks the spam is getting out of hand, a warning is usually sufficient. Banning all discussion on ppd's (what locking the thread effectively does) doesn't help anyone.

[Panag]

hi ,

nah , they are just used for spam


Jamski is correct


have a nice day

[Shogun Gunner]

The lists do offer some insight to who are the active members each month...that's interesting. I enjoy reading the lists. It's almost a "how to guide" for reaching Emperor within 12-18 months

I wonder if folks seeing the mothly list and the 50+/ppd count, by some of the more active members of the site, see that as a goal unto itself.

In the long run, are we not just creating instutionalized, subsidized spammers?

Spam a man for day, and he has spam for a day.
Teach a man how to spam, and he will spam for a lifetime.

From the Book of Shogun, Chapter 5, Verse 1

[Jamski]

I'm not happy about these accusation pointed towards me of dishonesty, trolling and spamming. If you have an issue come out and say it to my face, but don't hide behind *wink smiles*

Firstly I find it extremely insulting to be called a spammer. Spam posts are posts you ignore, spam e-mail is deleted without being read, spam mail goes straight into the bin. By calling someone a spammer you are saying that their posts are worthless - that they are posting for the sake of getting more posts, or that their posts are lacking in any intrinsic worth.

By calling me a spammer you put me into the same category as those who post 6 times in a row, in the same box as those who check their post count daily, you class me with people who post "one smilie" posts. Maybe these people are happy to be called spammers. Perhaps they have a stronger sense of self worth. Perhaps they lack respect for the people that read their crap *shrugs* I'm not wanting to attack any other posters here.

For those who point at my post count and say "Look! He's such a spammer! How dare he complain!" I say the following.

I didn't get my post count because I wanted to get a large post count. It just happened. This is what happens if you are involved in democracy games for a long while, PBEMs, running forum games, SMAC strategy discussions, BG help etc etc etc. Unlike some people I don't have 90% of my post count from the Apolyton/Community forum.

So. I'll start by asking nicely, but my crusade against spam has begun. It will not be halted. I saw what happened on other forums when spam was allowed to run unchecked too long, and I spoke against it then, but was ignored. The forum almost died. I won't let it happen to the forum I love.

I don't want to tell the mods how to do their job, but the best idea would be to move these lists to the OTF. We can have the same discussion - but I'll bet you my last Euro there is HALF the posts in a lists thread in the OT and from more different people when no one gets a +1 from commenting on other people getting +1s.

There. My piece is said. Thankyou for your time, and don't point the Finger of Spam my way. You know who you are.

-Jam

[Ming]

Originally posted by Jamski
I don't want to tell the mods how to do their job,

We wouldn't listen anyway

but the best idea would be to move these lists to the OTF.

And that's why you aren't a mod... The lists are a community topic...

I think some people are taking this WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

Lighten up folks... this is a gaming forum... we do this for entertainment. If things get totally out of hand, action will be taken against those responsible

[Skanky Burns]

you class me with people who post "one smilie" posts.

I can't help but feel that is an attack against me.

[Dauphin]

I'm with Jamski for at least 2 reasons:

1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform
2) I see inequal treatment at allowing these threads to continue and disallowing other threads people find interesting and funny but are deemed pointless spam by Ming.