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  • Originally posted by vmxa1
    You have met many people that are delusional. There are no known professional crap players. Spending lots of time playing craps is not the same thing. Filing tax returns listing that as your occupationion and showing a positive cash flow for at least a year would make you a pro.

    Go to the gambler book club and check around for any names of pro crap players. What you find are people trying to make a living by trelling you how to beat craps. They are not beating the club, they are conmen.
    the only reason there are professional blackjack players is because you can count cards. counting cards is really the only way to make money on blackjack consistantly- unless you are just lucky. Of course the casinos don't like you doing that. You have to count cards without being noticed.

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    • I have to say I don't see how you can turn the odds in your favour at Craps, or Blackjack. Sure you can minimise the house's advantage if you are skilled, but that is not a long term winning strategy right?

      For blackjack there are pros sure, but if there are pros for craps and blackjack I want to know why.

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      • Originally posted by DrSpike
        I have to say I don't see how you can turn the odds in your favour at Craps, or Blackjack. Sure you can minimise the house's advantage if you are skilled, but that is not a long term winning strategy right?

        For blackjack there are pros sure, but if there are pros for craps and blackjack I want to know why.
        skilled dice rollers.....
        GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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        • Originally posted by Rasputin


          skilled dice rollers.....
          Products of secret gov't projects to produce folk who can manipulate "things" with their minds. Very hush hush.

          Monk
          so long and thanks for all the fish

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          • How do you know about it then?

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            • Originally posted by DrSpike
              How do you know about it then?
              Read about it in a supermarket tabloid.

              Monk
              so long and thanks for all the fish

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              • Hmm, is there any chance you are interested in purchasing some real estate?

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                • Only in areas with confirmed UFO activity.


                  Monk
                  so long and thanks for all the fish

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                  • Spike, if you're thinking of moving in on my magic beans trade then you can get lost! Go find your own market, this is my pitch.

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                    • got some lovely real estate with water views....
                      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                      • In one deck blackjack (under most rules), by counting cards and varying bets depending on the situation, you can play over 100%, or you could say the house advantage is negative.
                        Now even under optimal condition this is about 102 % or something along those line, so you only win on the long run, and still lose a lot, so you need very good memory, perfect skills, nerves of steels and a deep pocket.
                        In the 70s I think, it became a bit too popular and the big casinons worked around it, by adding decks, or preventing too much bet variation etc...

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                        • if it was so easy to win the casions would go broke, odds obviously in there favour, but they have to have some fun there otherwise no one would play !!!
                          GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                          • It is that easy to win- if you can count cards. I read a recent article about it. Although you have to be prepared to lose big. Sometimes these guys lose $10,000 in a few hours. But overall they do win money.

                            but that's easier said than done. Counting cards isn't as easy as it looks.

                            And also as has been said above, most casinos do not have single deck blackjack. And some have varied other rules as well to maximize house advantage.

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                            • Originally posted by Dissident
                              It is that easy to win- if you can count cards. I read a recent article about it. Although you have to be prepared to lose big. Sometimes these guys lose $10,000 in a few hours. But overall they do win money.
                              wouldnt it be nice to have that much you can lsoe $10 G without flinching an eye
                              GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                              • Originally posted by Rasputin


                                wouldnt it be nice to have that much you can lsoe $10 G without flinching an eye
                                Yes, very nice. But then it becomes, will you flinch if you lose a million??

                                It's just a bigger stage. The rules are the same. At some point, it IS going to hurt. The only variable is where that point is.

                                Nicer still is being happy in whatever moment you find yourself.

                                Monk
                                so long and thanks for all the fish

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