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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ming
    No other special interest group has their own private on topic forum that isn't game related... why should you guys be special?

    I would like an on topic sports forum... didn't happen.
    Many people wanted an on topic tech forum... didn't happen.

    Many forums have been requested by people... and they have been rejected by the OWNERS... who view this as a gaming site.

    Your actions in the Mac Civ forum show your total disrespect for the owners of this site. If any other special interest group took over a dead or dying forum for their own use... the same thing would happen.

    The OTF is for OFF GAMING TOPIC DISCUSSIONS... people whine and start mini flame wars on ALL subjects... Mac discussions aren't any different.

    I think a lot of people just want +1 for their tech discussions... and since no other special interest group get to, why should you
    Ming. As I said before, can't you read? The poor moderation of mac threads in the OTF meant that people moved over to the mac forum in order to have a sensible discussion that was denied them in the OTF. There were no flame wars until Asher turned up and started making a nuisance of himself. You look, and you won't find one.

    Why don't you do your job properly then on the OTF, or I'd ask the owners to give us our forum back with a suitable moderator? Seems crystal clear to me.

    If people really wanted +1's in the mac forum it would have been used a lot more than it was. And it wasn't... QED
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #17
      There were no flame wars until Asher turned up and started making a nuisance of himself.
      Hello! The problem wasn't the flame wars, the problem is that you were misusing the forum.

      And if anyone cares to check the threads in the forum, they'd see I was quite well behaved while you came in guns-blazing with your flame thrower at me and telling me to piss off.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Asher
        Agathon asked for a mod, and he got one.

        *shrug*
        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Agathon
          Why don't you do your job properly then on the OTF, or I'd ask the owners to give us our forum back with a suitable moderator? Seems crystal clear to me.
          Bye Agathon.
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Agathon


            Ming. As I said before, can't you read? The poor moderation of mac threads in the OTF meant that people moved over to the mac forum in order to have a sensible discussion that was denied them in the OTF. There were no flame wars until Asher turned up and started making a nuisance of himself. You look, and you won't find one.

            Why don't you do your job properly then on the OTF, or I'd ask the owners to give us our forum back with a suitable moderator? Seems crystal clear to me.

            If people really wanted +1's in the mac forum it would have been used a lot more than it was. And it wasn't... QED
            Instead of reading my post... you whine. You talk about logic... and you can't see the logic of my post. No other group has been given such a forum, why should you.
            You claim about anti mac discussions in the OTF. Well... some people are sick of anti american discussions... but they don't get their own forum. Many people are sick of anti bush discussions... but they don't get their own forum. You have given NO VALID reason why you guys should be allowed to take over an on topic gaming forum for your own use. You aren't special.

            The owners make the decisions here... not you. If you can't agree with that, maybe you should find another forum to post on. This is not a Democracy... it's a privately owned site. And the owners feel that this is a gaming site.
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #21
              And if anyone cares to check the threads in the forum, they'd see I was quite well behaved while you came in guns-blazing with your flame thrower at me and telling me to piss off.


              Oh, bull****. You were starting flame wars in the Mac forum back when I first signed up and you've continued doing it up until this day. The forum is very calm until you come in to satiate whatever the pathetic need is that causes you to insult the OS preference of other people.
              KH FOR OWNER!
              ASHER FOR CEO!!
              GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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              • #22
                Could you guys please PM me your addresses so I can send you a crate of Kleenex boxes?
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
                  You're calling us whiners? We aren't the ones who went crying about the "abuse" of the Mac forum to the mods. ****ing tattletale...
                  KH FOR OWNER!
                  ASHER FOR CEO!!
                  GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                  • #24
                    I do honestly think the thread I posted was on topic, but oh well.

                    Guys, COME ON, it was obviously used for off-topic, accept what Ming has done.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                      You're calling us whiners? We aren't the ones who went crying about the "abuse" of the Mac forum to the mods. ****ing tattletale...


                      I only want what's best for this community, etc, etc.

                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #26
                        I would like an on topic sports forum.




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                        Shut down the Mac forum... it's unneeded, especially since it really has little to do with any of the covered games at all.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #27
                          I would like an on topic sports forum.


                          KH FOR OWNER!
                          ASHER FOR CEO!!
                          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                          • #28
                            Good job in bringing this to everyone's attention, Asher.

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                            • #29
                              I am opening a PayPal account for donations.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #30
                                Re: "Civ-Macintosh" forum

                                Originally posted by Asher
                                What good is this forum? The name is entirely misleading, the threads in there are no more than circle jerks from Mac fanatics bashing Bill Gates and worshipping Steve Jobs, with nothing to do with Civilization, and they get post counts.
                                Your generalization is most displeasing, Asher. I know you have been stereotyped by others in the past, and they were punished for it. Yet here you are, committing the same sin — stereotyping and generalizing an entire group because a few of them annoyed you. Should you be reprimanded in turn? It's not my call.

                                I have a few issues with this forum:
                              • It is off-topic, not relating to Civilization whatsoever, and thus should belong in the Off Topic forum (or a subforum) and not receive any post count
                              • It is unmoderated
                              • Certain people in it seem to think that they own it and can curse and order certain other people out.
                              I've posted nothing but Civ-related topics in the forum in question. Post count? Who cares? Last time I checked, some six months ago, I was roughly 1200 posts from Emperor. Big whoop de doo. I care more about when a person registered and, most importantly, what they contribute than what their title might be.

                              Technically, the forums are moderated by MacUser. I haven't seen him for nearly two years, though, and I never read anything about him no longer being able to perform his duties as a moderator. I may have missed the news item announcing this, but as it stands now, I think RL obligations simply made MacUser "fade" away, so to speak.

                              Can't comment on your third point, as it's not relevant to me.

                              If we're going to keep the forum, should it not be renamed to "Macintosh Forum" and be made a subforum off Off Topic? Further, why do the Macheads get their own forum where they can touch eachother in special places while there still exists no general technology forum?
                              "Touch eachother in special places."

                              Cute, Asher, cute. I can only imagine what you had in mind when you typed that line.

                              As for discussing general Macintosh issues, sure, put it in the OTF. Y'see, it doesn't particularly bother me because I don't give a rat's arse anymore — aside from some good-natured "barbs" with Imran once in a blue moon — as to what computer system a person uses, so long as they like it. I really don't think many "ordinary" people care about tech specs and the like.

                              [/quote]A reorganization is required.[/QUOTE]

                              No, but a Mac-specific moderator would be nice. It's quite possible activity would increase on those forums if such a person were in place. I know MacUser was a sort of "jack of all trades" in that regard — he did more than just monitor the forums. If I remember right, he also posted Mac-related news, mods, maps and so on.

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                              "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

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