-- POPUPS -- please read

[Rasbelin]

Of course my ramblings have caused me to have a very negative reputation here, but on the other hand I'm talking seriously, but seen by some as a person who doesn't appriciate anything. Well, too bad, but I'm just trying to enlighten that there are better ways to do some of the business. And yes, I don't own this site, so I don't have that experience, but I have other experience. Nevertheless, just carry on using me as a laughing stock. Would have been abit more useful to discuss these issues openly and taking them as serious ideas, but I guess that would be too much asked.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Rasbelin

Non aggressive?

As the pop-ups can be blocked by any pop-up killer I consider they are not aggressive...

Advertising that causes Claria to be installed or which fills your screen with ads is what I call aggressive marketing. In general pop-up ads are something else than non aggressive. It's not a farking thing you can be thankful for, unless you're a complete nutter that allows almost anything to happen with your system, just for the sake of one website (...which you seem to be, by praising these pop-ups... just my 0,05 €).

You should keep in mind that most of the posters, including myself, are not computer scientists... which does not mean they are nutters. A word that does not help to further a friendly talk by the way.

That does not prevent me from using a firewall, an anti-virus and to regularly scan my system to remove various spywares.

It's not a farking thing you can be thankful for...

I am not thankful for the pop-ups but for the Apolyton team...

I have several times explained how other better alternatives could be used to fund a large site like ACS. Of course money rules here too! Darn, keeping ACS isn't of course free, so one has to find efficient ways to cover the costs. Pop-ups aren't with their current payouts, which have decreased since the big Internet boom. The money doesn't go directly to ACS. The biggest portion goes to 3rd parties like online advertising agencies. The best payout is certainly by CafePress' merchandise.

Even better (100%) would be from donations, paid extra services and sponsored special memberships. As users block pop-ups and don't buy the products/services marketed by these ads, ACS doesn't get a one single dime. No matter if you would be having your screen filled with God know how many pop-ups, just for the sake of ACS! Yes, some do pay for views, but that's not much and it has decreased since the boom. Not even clicks are worth that much. Getting people to buy is what gives the best payouts. But in the meantime one could have achieved that and more, by simply setting up more efficient ways. Just look at some very popular sites like Something Awful and Salon.com, not to mention zounds of others.

I can't argue with you about this subject as this is a matter I don't know as well as you do... but there is one think I know, it is that I appreciate a free ACS.

[yaroslav]

As I posted there: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=105112

I have got a pop-up AND a all-screen ad when trying to download a ZIP file from a Civ2 forum.

[Inverse Icarus]

/me screams "IN-SITE LINKS SHOULDN'T HAVE A ****ING SKIP THROUGH AD!"

[MarkG]

Originally posted by yaroslav
As I posted there: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=105112

I have got a pop-up AND a all-screen ad when trying to download a ZIP file from a Civ2 forum.

so you got the redirect page with the full-page ad, and THAT page also spawned a pop-up?

shouldnt happen. if this is really it, we'll be doing some changes....

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by MarkG
lazy.
right.

oh well, i guess i've heard everything now, after 7 years of continuing service to the civ community

You tell 'im.

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by MarkG
so you got the redirect page with the full-page ad, and THAT page also spawned a pop-up?

shouldnt happen. if this is really it, we'll be doing some changes....

Yes, that is exactly what happened. I took two detailed screenshots. I hope this will be useful

First the full-page ad

[yaroslav]

And the pop-up

If you take a look at the address, it appears to be the same on both screens.

Next time I'll get a pop-up I'll press the right button and store the full-address...

[MarkG]

did you get popups at these specific ads?

[TCO]

Could we go to a subscription-based model? I would really enjoy the trolling and flaming that would ensue after you announced such a change, Mark.

[MarkG]

if you're talking about turning apolyton into a paying-members-only club, it wont happen, sorry

[DrSpike]

Do it as an April Fool.

[TCO]

Originally posted by MarkG
if you're talking about turning apolyton into a paying-members-only club, it wont happen, sorry

Even just saying you were going to do it would be sufficient for me. I could tease all the people who think it should be free.

Don't make me start false rumors again that you have told me that you are already planning on doing this...

[Ecthy]

we didn't need popups when this place was branching threads.

[Skanky Burns]

This place never had branching threads. Thankfully.