What is Apolyton definition of 'Spam'?

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Ming
Point 3 being the most important

Most important is that "mods, per definition, do not spam"

[Skanky Burns]

Theoretically, mods could spam. Of course, it would have to involve their post being observed by an admin before it would be called spam.

[Frozzy]

Spam n. see Trip

[Nubclear]

You'll learn.

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Ming
spam - senseless crap
spam - worthless post with the sole intent to get +1 in an on topic forum
spam - whatever the mods say is spam is indeed spam

Point 3 being the most important

Ming, this is quite a job for you to police all threads and all posts on these forums for spam. If the users could police themselves to some degree, this would take some pressure off of you. Maybe these ideas that follow are not practical because of software/hardware limitations within Apolyton, but I'll throw them out there just in case.

Have you ever considered implementing a system which will allow users to rate individual posts as spam? When an individual gets enough bad ratings of his posts by other users, he will automatically get penalized. There is already a thread rating system in place here. If enough bad ratings of a thread occur after a predefined number of people have voted on the thread, you could make the thread automatically close. Also, going back to the previous idea, if a thread accumulates enough negative user response to the posts it contains, then it will automatically close. As for the voting, users can only vote for a unique thread/post combination once. What do you think?

[DrSpike]

Hehe, there are some insufferable people whose posts would get labelled as bad even if they weren't. You risk turning administrative action into a popularity contest.

And people do police their own posts to a degree..........after all that way Ming wont come along and pcr them.

[alva]

Even you spikey ?
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I do agree on the popularity contest though

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And I've heard Ming say in the past that he get's several PM's a day/week from people reporting posts a spam...

[Snowflake]

No, I have to agree with DrSpike that this definitely a bad idea. This could be abused too easily in occassions such as when a bunch of people want to banish someone.

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Hehe, there are some insufferable people whose posts would get labelled as bad even if they weren't. You risk turning administrative action into a popularity contest.

Administrative action already is a popularity contest, isn't it? If your likes/dislikes and sense of humor/ sense of disgust are popular with Ming then you will never be accused of spamming. Correct?

And people do police their own posts to a degree..........after all that way Ming wont come along and pcr them.

Yes, but how do I save a thread I've started from threadjacking without having that thread closed?

[DinoDoc]

If the mods post something, it isn't spam no matter how much it resembles spam.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Feephi
Administrative action already is a popularity contest, isn't it? If your likes/dislikes and sense of humor/ sense of disgust are popular with Ming then you will never be accused of spamming. Correct?

Not correct... while some people are treated differently than others... it has nothing to do with "popularity".

There are three classes of people in my mind...

Owners and Mods/staff... Owners can do whatever they please, and Mods get yelled at in private
When I broke the rules... I was punished... but it was handled privately by the owners.

Problem Posters... People who constantly are breaking the rules don't get cut ANY slack. By being wise guys and jerks, they have earned themselves special treatment... While they will sometimes still get warnings, may times, they are just restricted without any warning when they play their silly games.

Everybody else... Unless they do something really bad, they usually get warned before action is taken. If they ignore the warnings (sometimes they get a couple of warnings) then action is taken against them.

People are not treated differently based on their popularity, their political views, or other such garbage.
Contrary to what many people think when they send me nasty PM's after action is taken. I will repeat here my typical response... "I don't really give a damn who you are, or what you beliefs are... I care only that you broke the rules"

Yes, but how do I save a thread I've started from threadjacking without having that thread closed?

If you see a threadjacking happen... feel free to click on the thread/post complaint button. (Lord knows many other people do so) If the complaint is a valid one, action is taken... and sometimes a warning is posted to stay on topic.

Sometimes, nothing will save a thread and it is closed. If it was a valid topic... start another one... but try to word it better so a threadjack doesn't happen.

In many cases... a thread runs it's course, and all that is left is a change of subject... it happens.

[rah]

Gotta laugh. Yes I ban every left wing kook here whenever I can. Get real.

Ditto what Ming said. The only exception is Bod. He gets special special treatment.

People must also remember that while we try to be consistent whenever possible, we are just human too, and sometime just have a bad day.

Make me DAY

RAH

[Rasbelin]

we are just human too, and sometime just have a bad day.

Remember Chicago...

[DrSpike]

Hey! Renee Zellweger was not that bad!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Feephi


Administrative action already is a popularity contest, isn't it? If your likes/dislikes and sense of humor/ sense of disgust are popular with Ming then you will never be accused of spamming. Correct?

No matter how much they try to deny it, due to their humanity, I do believe that they have a bias against those whom they don't like (for any reason).
If that were not true, they would not be human!!!

In response to the idea that users could do it...If that were true, I would be banned for all eternity. I would definately not support that idea.

And people do police their own posts to a degree..........after all that way Ming wont come along and pcr them.

I once got a 100 percent PCR