Vendetta Game?

[smhfan86]

Has anyone ever played a game in which the rule was that everyone had to be at vendetta all the time? i.e. once u meet in game.

It would definitely be interesting.

The only way you could get techs would be to steal them, or research them urself, or AAs, etc. i.e. no trading of anything.

Also, it would mean no cooperation. Only fighting.

It'd be interesting to see who'd end up on top, under such hostile conditions.

Of course, H2H games are similar, however, u can always pact or treaty with the AI.

[Darsnan]

Heah smhfan86,
how many players are you talking about here, or are you you just positing an idea to pursue out the details from here?
A while ago I tried to rouse your interest in a game like this, but at the time you stated you were primarily a Builder, so I didn't pursue the matter with you.
Regardless, you are a skillfull player, and the game I was originally trying to recruit you to I turned into the January CGN Challenge. If you want, I can forward this SP Challenge to you. I also created an H2H version of this, as well, if this is what your driving at. Let me know if I'm in line here, and we can proceed accordingly, or if your driving at something else here, please explain in more detail, and hopefully I can provide some valid input.

D

[smhfan86]

Hey Darsnan.

Yup, I was just positing the idea, to see if there was any interest. And if there was, maybe make up a game and more detailed rules.

I still love to build, but I also like to fight now too. I believe it's possible to still build a decent empire, even in a game where everyone was at vendetta, as the fear of being attacked, while attacking someone else, might keep players in line.

I was thinking something along the lines of 3 to 4 players, with no AI.

What's the January CGN Challenge? When u say SP, u mean single player right?

Currently I'm in the midst of writing 3 big essays, however, since turns for new games are really quick, I could start one, but I would like to plan it out first.

If you're interested, we could start planning it out on this thread.

p.s. Thanks for the compliment. Personally, I think this game is one of the best out there, still. If only there weren't so many bugs in PBEM, it'd be that much better. And to think, I bought this game many years after it's release, because I got hooked on the demo.

-SMH

[Googlie]

The Manifold 6 and Manifold 7 games are pure Vendetta games (alien clone factions, all of whom are in Vendetta with everyone else) the players seem to be having a different challenge with these teo

[Darsnan]

Originally posted by Googlie
The Manifold 6 and Manifold 7 games are pure Vendetta games (alien clone factions, all of whom are in Vendetta with everyone else) the players seem to be having a different challenge with these teo

Thats an interesting lot, to say the least! I subbed for Hobbes in Manifold 6 for a while, and gave it back to him much worse than what he had handed off to me!
To answer smh's question about CGN, its a gaming site like Apolyton, and a lot of the brighter lights in the SMAC(X) universe have emigrated to here. Here is the link, if your interested. The CGN Challenges are SP's set up by players with the idea of being really difficult, and whoever does the best for the monthly challenge is the "winner". I've attached my Challenge, if your interested in trying it out.
As far as me personally picking up any more games, why I'm afraid I'm booked at the moment. However, if you want to discuss this topic, or need a CMN, why I can help out in these regards.

D

[H0bbes]

Originally posted by Darsnan
To answer smh's question about CGN, its a gaming site like Apolyton, and a lot of the brighter lights in the SMAC(X) universe have emigrated to here.

Brighter lights? I resent that!!! (LOL, actually, I post everywhere.)

Remember, Apolyton has much better smilies than CGN.

[Darsnan]

Originally posted by H0bbes


Brighter lights? I resent that!!! (LOL, actually, I post everywhere.)

Remember, Apolyton has much better smilies than CGN.

I was going to provide an example as to my above mentioned comment, but I see Hobbes has beaten me to it.....

[smhfan86]

Manifold 6 and Manifold 7 sound interesting. As for Darsnan's SP challenge, I'll try that when I can find the time. Gotta work on my essays right now.

As for CGN, I use to go there, but decided to just stick to apoly.

[knowhow2]

Vendetta sounds like a game for players that would like to settle for old score....... a few around here certainly looks like they´re on the way to do this under uncontrolled circumstances,,,,,

[smhfan86]

actually, i think vendetta games would have less problems then regular games, because everyone's already an enemy, meaning claims that someone stabbed u in the back are moot.

[Flubber]

I am really enjoying manifold 7 . . . as an all alien game, not only are you always at vendetta, you can't even use the diplomatic channels in-game since it automatically gives back the " I want to kill you" message.

I liked it because a lot of MP games are decided simply by which of the stronger factions decide to ally.

It strikes me that you can do a number of variations depending on what you want to achieve

1. All vendetta-- no trades of anything
2. vendetta but tech trades are allowed
3. regular game but no-co-op victory so parties can help each other but must always be looking out for their self interest as well.

IN any of these there is always the possibility of 2 factions ganging up on one OR factions working in blocs of some type to deal with a threat.

[smhfan86]

Cool, about the i want to kill u message. lol.

i like the fact that it prevents tech trades, because that's the real killer when 2 or more players ally. a really good player could handle 2 moderate players in variation 1, but would likely be pulling their hair out in variations 2 and 3.

i like the idea of being completely dependent on yourself, and knowing that others are too. with no trades, the probe aspect of the game would be enhanced a lot.

p.s. could i get a link to the manifold game threads? i'd like to check it out.

[Darsnan]

Here is the link for Manifold 6.

[Flubber]

and Manifold7 is here http://www.civgaming.net/forums/show...=&threadid=504

we are on a 3 week hiatus right now as one of the 3 remaining players (of 5) is in the midst of a cross-country move

smhfan- the things you like are the very things I like as well-- rely on yourself and you don't lose automatically when two similarly skilled players ally against you

[smhfan86]

thanks for the links.

did the manifold 6 players simply rename the factions from networknode.org? or did they modify them too?

flubber - yup, i hate it when i get double and tripled teamed. i don't mind the military alliances much, i can handle that. it's the tech alliances that i detest. because it ends up becoming a war of choppers versuses, impact rovers.

i think a vendetta game where no one can trade techs because of the com message, is a perfect solution to this.

i'd be interested in starting a game like the manifold ones, with reliable players. of course reliable can easily change over time. lol.

i'm thinking.

standard or large planet.
4 factions max.