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**Qantaga** · January 28, 2002, 23:47

SITS, thanks again for creating the game for us. We are very grateful. You made me so jealous that I have been playing around in the scenario editor all day.

I know it takes a lot of time and hard work to set one of these games up, so thanks a lot.

I would be willing to bet that you selected the right tech for Paul, but no worries if he would like to make a clean start.

As for the rules, I think we have agreed on all of the rules you posted, with the exception of this one:

"Total freedom in Design Workshop (upgrades anytime, during turn or on-field"

Personally, I have no problem either way with this rule, as long as we agree up front.

The problem with this one is that everyone in the game must be comfortable with it, because it could be a gamebreaker if not everyone is knowledgeable of its power and using it. If given a choice, I would rather us not have the ability to upgrade a unit and move it on the same turn (thus the rule to only use the DW at the end of the turn laid out in the 'Poly tournaments). As Flubber posted in another thread, imagine sidling up to a group of 1-1-1 Scout Patrols and the next turn, not only are they suddenly 8-1-1, but they also have the ability to immediately strike. However, if the majority of the players want DW freedom, then I will happily go along.

vitamin j, I noticed you were a little unsure of the Council notification in the other thread, but that is pretty standard MP etiquette these days. Since the council votes pop up at the very start of the turn, it just gives everyone else a fair chance to think things over before they open their turn. Obviously, the person who called the elections had ample time to think it over before calling the election, so it is just a common courtesy.

Good luck to everyone. This should be fun.

**Qantaga** · January 29, 2002, 00:02

Oh, and sorry to get so long-winded, but just a couple of additional items:

1. Nice choice on naming the game Lost Secrets.

2. I am pretty sure that we agreed to be on our honor to not even place a Secret Project in the build queues. The only two secret projects that you can even start working on would be the Voice and the Ascent. So, if that is not agreed by the majority, we need to hash that out now since it is at the core of the idea of this game.

**SITS** · January 29, 2002, 00:09

There are no SP's in this game except for Voice and Ascent.

And thank you for your comments!

**Qantaga** · January 29, 2002, 11:10

Originally posted by SITS
There are no SP's in this game except for Voice and Ascent.

Nice! I never even knew you could turn off or activate only certain projects. Thanks for setting it up this way. Also, many thanks to Googlie and his vast SMACX knowledge.

**SITS** · January 29, 2002, 12:12

Originally posted by Qantaga

Nice! I never even knew you could turn off or activate only certain projects. Thanks for setting it up this way. Also, many thanks to Googlie and his vast SMACX knowledge.

I assure you it is thanks to Googlie's vast SMACX knowledge, rather than mine!

**Googlie** · January 29, 2002, 12:49

Originally posted by Qantaga

"Total freedom in Design Workshop (upgrades anytime, during turn or on-field"

Personally, I have no problem either way with this rule, as long as we agree up front.

The problem with this one is that everyone in the game must be comfortable with it, because it could be a gamebreaker if not everyone is knowledgeable of its power and using it. If given a choice, I would rather us not have the ability to upgrade a unit and move it on the same turn (thus the rule to only use the DW at the end of the turn laid out in the 'Poly tournaments). As Flubber posted in another thread, imagine sidling up to a group of 1-1-1 Scout Patrols and the next turn, not only are they suddenly 8-1-1, but they also have the ability to immediately strike. However, if the majority of the players want DW freedom, then I will happily go along.

There are two limiting factors that militate against these DW type of upgrades:

You can't select a single unit to upgrade, so you must have enough energy credits in hand to en-masse upgrade, even for units of that type that will not be facing combat (but of course, if you had a single, obsolete whatsit lying around and upgraded to a neutronium armored drop troop you could then drop that into the defenders slot - assuming movement limitations were met.

You revert all units back to the basic morale level of green when you design-workshop upgrade.

Battlefield upgrades retain their morale (but of course lose their turn)

But Q is right - it can be somewhat of a gamebreaker. In a recent one I maneged to destroy an enemy's fully built Ascent by mass upgrading of drop nervegas scouts, and then using captured bases facilities (sold) to further upgrade miscellaneous units to drop shard blink units that stormed his Ascent Base

But I couldn't have done it if he hadn't left eight bases undefended as he pulled defenders to his Ascent base - so I'm not sure how much of a "gamebreaker" it really could be

Have fun (and thanks for the compliment, SITS, but the work is all yours - I just pointed to menu items

Googlie

**Qantaga** · January 29, 2002, 22:52

Hmmm... Now that this game has its hooks in me, I am a little curious where it might be. I noticed that vitamin j posted a couple of other game turns earlier today, but no mention of this one.

SITS, perhaps a resend to vitamin j might be in order?

**SITS** · January 30, 2002, 01:34

Turn resent - I think the password got lost in all the text I sent him....

**vitamin j** · January 30, 2002, 10:57

I realize everyone is chomping at the bit. I've emailed SITS about the game, and he has sent me the turn AGAIN. And now I've received an email from Paul saying essentially "hurry up"! But there is one problem... WHAT IS MY F***ING PASSWORD!

There was no text in either email I received from SITS. So if you would be so kind, sir, please try again or let's try something else. I don't understand why I would not receive text in your emails... Perhaps Googlie could send it to me, as I know I've received text from him.

If my password is the same as it is in AXT055 and 056, Googlie could verify that with a "yes" in this thread.

So, sorry for the delay. I would like to get started myself.

**SITS** · January 30, 2002, 11:08

I've resent the password again to you, making sure the email is in plain text rather than html. I'll be online for a little while so email me back if it doesn't work. Cheers!

**SITS** · January 30, 2002, 11:09

I've resent the password again to you, making sure the email is in plain text rather than html. I'll be online for a little while so email me back if it doesn't work. Cheers!

PS The password is different from whatever Googlie has given you...

**SITS** · January 30, 2002, 12:10

Vitamin j now has his password...

**vitamin j** · January 30, 2002, 13:18

And 2102 has been sent to Darsnan.

I'd just like to say I was disappointed that I did not start the game with a probe team. It's been a while since I played the Angels, but I'm pretty sure that is one of their faction advantages.
I can deal with it, but I can't help but wonder if the Gaians started with a mind worm. And we know the Uni got their free tech.

Also, I remember reading somewhere that a +4 probe rating was forbidden for some reason. I was never clear on why this is, and it is particularly applicable to the Angels as they can run fundamentalism. And by building a covert ops center, an Angel base would have a +4 probe rating automatically. Any comments?

**Darsnan** · January 30, 2002, 13:21

We have survived Planetfall. It is so good to breathe "real" air again, after so much time spent breathing canned air! And yet we mourn for the comrades we lost on Unity, as well as all of the genetic samples lost: Datatec vitaminj (who our Intelligence Division now informs us is the head of a "Shadow Faction" that was aboard Unity) had been charged with releasing all of Unity's pods into re-entry windows so that they would land safely on Planet. Alas, as we entered the atmosphere we could see the pods burning up all around us! Hoepfully a few survived, but our fears are that none did. When we meet on Planet, we will have words with Datatec vitaminj over this disaster (that is, if he didn't program in the wrong re-entry trajectory for his own escape pods....)

Sorry about the reload - I think I had too many windows open on the computer.

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