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  • #16
    Uni &Aliens.. too boring
    Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ivellios
      I actually thought Probe wouldn't go higher than +3 before reverting...
      the SE table doesn't go higher than +3 i think. but with the angels' free +2 probe, and their free covert ops centres, they rollover after pre sentient algorithms.

      you could always just run knowledge of course...

      WoA: i thought it rolled over to 0?

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      • #18
        I'm _really_ suprised how many Miriam-Haters there are out there, and how few Morgan-bashers. To be honest, I really think Miriam is the strongest momentum faction out there. Sure, you wind up being behind in tech at first, but once you have Information Networks and Doctrine Flexibility, nobody gets to keep their tech from you. And how can you say no to innate +2 support and +25% to attacks. What other faction can do a planned/demo pop boom and _still_ support 2 units per base?

        On the other hand, I hear so many people making a deal out of the Morganite support penalty (overrated, imo), I expected to see at least one vote against my favorite faction.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by CEO Aaron
          To be honest, I really think Miriam is the strongest momentum faction out there. Sure, you wind up being behind in tech at first, but once you have Information Networks and Doctrine Flexibility, nobody gets to keep their tech from you.
          They're a strong momentum player, but if you don't have neighbors then you've probably lost the game before it even starts.
          "We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John Prine

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ivellios
            Why would you want to get +6 anyway?
            I'm pretty sure I made an error here and meant to say +4. My apologies. Any probe value above 3 is equivilent to 0 (but correct me if I'm wrong, please).
            "We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John Prine

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CEO Aaron
              but once you have Information Networks and Doctrine Flexibility,
              surely you mean planetary networks and doctrine flex.....

              right?
              It's close to midnight and something evil's is lurking in the dark.

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              • #22
                Hmm ive never liked playing the believers. As for momentum factions, well i think the gaiins and the spartans can be great initial momentum players as well.

                The difference is if they have no neighbours they can still win.

                To the guy who hates drones. Im playing one of the drones in one of my pbem and he is SCARY. So they can work if played well imho

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                • #23
                  Unfortunately the AI is hopeless in using the Drones' abilities
                  I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                  Asher on molly bloom

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                  • #24
                    Caretakers. Booooring...... The whole concept of two uber factions was poor IMHO. IMHO it made the necessity for the new human factions to be made too strong as well.

                    I would vote for both progenitor factions if possible but if limitted to one, choose Caretakers as they are more powerful than Usurpers due to unfettered ability to pop boom.

                    Much of SMAX is good IMO but not the main story line and Alien factions.

                    As for pirates, they can be a scary fast starter if played properly. See hints over here at Civgaming.net
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #25
                      Usually I just play with the original 7 factions. I think that they have the most personality and principles you can recognize... It's not like you see any people that want to roam the sea these days

                      Or Aliens for that matter

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by knowhow2


                        surely you mean planetary networks and doctrine flex.....

                        right?
                        Indeed, that _is_ what I meant. Oops.

                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                        I would vote for both progenitor factions if possible but if limitted to one, choose Caretakers as they are more powerful than Usurpers due to unfettered ability to pop boom.
                        Yah, I agree the Aliens are unbalanced and wrong, tho they are nice to have for an AI faction (or two) that you can count on to grow and get tough.

                        How do you figure Usurpers are hampered in their ability to Pop Boom? They can run Planned/Demo -or_ Free Market/Demo, can't they?

                        Whoops, just checked. I guess they can't
                        Last edited by CEO Aaron; February 14, 2003, 05:04.

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                        • #27
                          I just hate Miriam. Period.
                          And don't give me that momentum crap. That 25% is nothing, attacking gives you 50% on land anyways, and weapon strengths are ahead of armor strentgh at any practical research level (usually about twice as strong) - meaning that the attacker has 3x advantage most of the time. Compared to that the 25% is completely neglibigle. Spartans, Cyborgs or even Uni makes much better momentum player due to tech advantage.
                          ::Zsozso::

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                          • #28
                            Disagree- 3 armors, perimeter defences and sensor arrays are enough to stand against anyone
                            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                            Asher on molly bloom

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                            • #29
                              The Color Green

                              Gaians - Way too easy to win, with any game settings, even - or, rather, especially - when roleplaying.
                              Nobody likes me
                              Everybody hates me
                              That's why I'm gonna eat
                              WORMS
                              I am on a mission to see how much coffee it takes to actually achieve time travel.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by zsozso
                                ...attacking gives you 50% on land anyways...
                                Where did this come from? There is no bonus to attacking on land unless you are engaged in PSI combat.

                                BTW, fanatic bonus does not count against native life forms, I don't know if it applies if a defending unit is equipped with Psi armour...I suspect not.

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