Dissappointed CTP 2 Player!!!

[Purple]

I've been playing CTP2 since it was given me as a Christmas gift, but just ditched it and returned to SMAC/X. As Mars said, it's just too tedious. There were impressive innovations in CTP1 and a few refinements in CTP2, but it still plays like it were designed by committee. It really suffers in this respect, especially compared to the thoughtful, mostly quite well integrated design of SMAC/X.

But the worst offense is that CTP doesn't draw me in the way SMAC/X does. There's just no emotional buy-in. After two years of playing the latter, there are still surprises and challenges, especially with the possibility of playing against a new mix of opponents.

I'm really looking forward to being dazzled by Civ III (hope the expectations can be met), but in the meantime I'm happy with SMAC/X.

[Wiglaf]

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[This message has been edited by SMACed (edited February 05, 2001).]

[Wiglaf]

Civ3 has to live up to expectations - civ1 did, civ2 did, alpha centauri did, gettysburg did, antietam did - if it didn't, it would be Sid's first messup.

Don't worry
[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited February 06, 2001).]

[MarkG]

above post edited to fix a problem with the code...
[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited February 06, 2001).]

[Wiglaf]

Thought something was wrong there

Thanks

[Myronides]

I 've played them all too, SMAC is the best, CTP series the worst. Can't wait for CIV3 though... I 'm sure it will be even more interesting from what we plyed so far.

[Adalbertus]

Blake:

CTP2 has the sort of annoying, evening destroying bugs which stop a game after playing half through by means of a reproducible crash. This ruins a day and is the reason why I don't want to play it anymore. Of what sort are the bugs in SMAC?

SMACed:
In your list of good Sid games you forgot Pirates! and Railroad Tycoon which I still play from time to time ...

[Blake]

quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus on 02-10-2001 05:59 PM Blake: CTP2 has the sort of annoying, evening destroying bugs which stop a game after playing half through by means of a reproducible crash. This ruins a day and is the reason why I don't want to play it anymore. Of what sort are the bugs in SMAC?

SMAC has some weird bugs, the most hated must be the terranx.exe crash which causes the game to crash. It only afflicts some people and can be worked around sometimes. I believe there's an option which generally eliminates it. But SMAC has a great auto-save system anyway, so if it barfs just reload from a couple of turns back. The one time I used the autosave in CTP2 it forgot I had just researched a tech. sheesh. But anyway, game crashes sometimes, can be worked around.

Other bugs are minor and obscure, mainly stuff not working exactly as the help says it should (but you'd have to be an accountant to notice), theres a few ways to get "free" resources. But the game is generally balanced and doesn't have such retarted concepts as CTP2 (FARMERS which can feed a city of 200000 in the north pole?!!, a democracy where everyone is fed minimum rations and works for 14 hours a day for half a cent?!!, and there CONTENT to be treated that way?!!, in a police state sure but not a goddamn democracy!!!). The Smac bugs are weird but as a whole SMAC works a lot better than CTP2.

In the end I can find plenty of things to complain about in CTP2, yet I can't for SMAC, minor irritations sure but nothing worth ranting about.

A geez, I'm getting bored just thinking about CTP2, gotta play SMAX

[Chaos Warrior]

I'm not going to buy CtP2 myself, anyway