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  • #16
    Here's a PB that I dubbed ICMB for the PBEM game "Last Sentient Standing":

    ICBM, Missile, Planet Buster,Scout, 0, 0, 0, HAL9000, -1, 01000000000000000010000010000

    Essentially its got Drop Pods (Low Orbit capability), Fuel Nanocells (2nd stage rocket), and Antigrav Struts (3rd stage rocket), and the unit has a range of 30 tiles, give or take. Of course, if you detonate the ICBM on the same turn you used the Drop Pod capability, why you will only have half your attack capability (i.e. 49 instead of 99). Also, you can't "drop" the unit onto a sea tile - its a hardcoded feature of the game. FYI.


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    • #17
      I will definitely accept this as a game play reason.

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      • #18
        So what happens with the strength of 49? Does the Planet Bust still happen as normal?
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        • #19
          So, jam said it. An ICBM has an infinite range IF you agree to give your sentience to a computer. In other words: AI PB's have an infinite range, your own have a range of 16 tiles (IIRC).
          OTOH, I think for gameplay reasons it is ok. You can cause enough havoc with drop units of an infinite range which are possible for a human player.
          Anyway, I think it is impossible to match the movement speed of any strategy game to the city development or the speed of research without breaking the game into three. You can walk around earth in five years if you have decently paved ways. This would give you just a few city/base improvements and just one single important scientific breakthrough (if any). Its best just to live with it as a game.
          Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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          • #20
            I would rather NOT have a Planet Buster that can fly across the whole map the same turn it is created....

            Although if I'M the one building it, then it's a different story.
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            • #21
              Since planet busters become available with "orbital spaceflight", I have no problem with them being trully orbital. Of course, I don't use them, the AI already has them, and I only play solo, so it's a moot issue for me.

              OTOH, I may enter that design into the lists for the tectonic missles.

              BTW -- does the AI ever use those?
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #22
                'Busters or Tectonic missiles?

                I can say first hand that Miriam likes to use her planet busters.

                Suffice it to say that I lost a smackload of special projects in THAT game.
                Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                *****Citizen of the Hive****
                "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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                • #23
                  Oh, I've read all about buster-happy players -- human and AI alike.

                  When have you seen tectonics used, and in what way?
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #24
                    They're great for instant land bridges.
                    With a few infantry transports and rover formers, you're 4 squares forward in any direction through the sea in one turn.

                    Late game, it's nice to see a magtube spring from nowhere using these missles.

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                    • #25
                      i just like to cover morgan in fungus for a laugh and let the worms eat him
                      Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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                      • #26
                        Yes, but has the AI ever used them?
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • #27
                          Darsnan:
                          Here's a PB that I dubbed ICMB for the PBEM game "Last Sentient Standing":

                          ICBM, Missile, Planet Buster,Scout, 0, 0, 0, HAL9000, -1, 01000000000000000010000010000

                          Essentially its got Drop Pods (Low Orbit capability), Fuel Nanocells (2nd stage rocket), and Antigrav Struts
                          (3rd stage rocket), and the unit has a range of 30 tiles, give or take. Of course, if you detonate the ICBM
                          on the same turn you used the Drop Pod capability, why you will only have half your attack capability (i.e.
                          49 instead of 99). Also, you can't "drop" the unit onto a sea tile - its a hardcoded feature of the game. FYI.
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                          Holy s**t I am in that game.
                          On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                          • #28
                            Iirc, Pbs can move along the magtube network without loss of a movement point. In SP games this could come in quite handy if your PB was stationed at the other side of your empire.
                            On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                            • #29
                              If not, my carrier infantry transport should take care of it!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hercules
                                Darsnan:
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                                Holy s**t I am in that game.

                                Could you, by chance, open an interdimension portal and transfer one to my Peace Keepers in AXT056? I could really use one right about now...

                                Anyways, yes, you are right: I did include this design in the "Last Sentient Standing" PBEM. Should be interesting to see if it ever comes into play or not. It may be humanities last hope for survival in this one....



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