Where is my elite unit

[Mongoose]

Originally posted by RedFred
And finally for completeness, just a reminder that the type of upgrade affects the experence level. If you globally upgrade via the design workshop rather than 'control u' you seem to have the effects of any previous battles wiped out.

I am fairly certain that this statement is untrue. I am fairly certain that neither battlefield promotions nor monolith generated morale improvements are lost when upgrading, no matter the method of the upgrade.

Perhaps, RedFred, your experience involved the trained ability as well as combat derived promotions?

To reiterate what John said and to elaborate a bit... DW upgrading a trained unit loses the trained morale effect unless the design to which you upgrade also has the trained ability. Oddly enough, making the same upgrade on the map *ctrl-u* preserves the morale enhancement from the trained ability. The corollary is also true...a DW upgrade to a trained design GAINS the morale enhancement from training while ctrl-u to a trained design does not improve the morale of the unit.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Chaos Theory
If the unit's home city is in drone riots, the unit will get a (-). I don't know of any other way to get minuses, though soporific gas on an attacker will cost the defender two morale levels in combat.

Ahh thanks. Yes the newly captured base was in riot because it didn't benefit from my HGP SP. Yes I know, the first unit must be a super drone.

Thanks for all the clearifications and discussions on morale modifiers guys.

[Adalbertus]

I never observed that DW upgrading from trained to non-trained degrades the unit. But this is because I never do this as I want to keep the trained shell design

[RedFred]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Mongoose
I am fairly certain that this statement is untrue. I am fairly certain that neither battlefield promotions nor monolith generated morale improvements are lost when upgrading, no matter the method of the upgrade.

Hmm. Seems like I'll have to go back and test before making any absolute pronouncements. I know for sure that I have lost elites through the mass upgrade of all units of a type, but never had the single unit upgrade go awry on me like in the example above.

[Tau Ceti]

Originally posted by Adalbertus
No, the effect of a creche is far more complicated, and I don't know the exact effects. Does anybody know if this has been researched already?

It has, both here and elsewhere. The search function does not seem to give me any results, but here is a thread from CGN which contains the essential information:

http://www.civgaming.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1238

[MrWhereItsAt]

This, is complex....

[Mr. Harley]

Tau Ceti - thanks for the link. I thought I understood the Creche advantages, but there are some finer point that I definitely had missed. Great resource.