Fixing Ms. Roze

[Nubclear]

How do I make it so The Data Angels recieve a Covert Ops centre at the BEGINNING of the game? I've bumped their bonus down to +1, so in the end it should be +3 instead of 0.

[Sikander]

Re: Fixing Ms. Roze

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
How do I make it so The Data Angels recieve a Covert Ops centre at the BEGINNING of the game? I've bumped their bonus down to +1, so in the end it should be +3 instead of 0.

I'm not sure. Try the creation forum perhaps, and / or PM gwillybj. He seems to know a lot about modding.

[Rubin]

Tassadar5000: Have you tried using the Free Facility option in the Faction Editor (not the Free Facility (prereq.), though)? I believe it is supposed to solve your problem.

[Gufnork]

If nothing else works you could always give them the required tech from the beginning. Or do you need to give them the prereqs as well?

[Curiosity]

I think Gufnork's right. The only thing that will work is to give them the tech at the beginning, but that would look kinda silly.

I recommend giving them an innate +3 probe and getting rid of the Covert ops centres. Their probes will generally all be Elite by this time anyway, due to tech modifiers. You could also give them immunity to negative probe modifiers, so they can run Knowledge without crippling their advantage.

I don't think they'll end up too unbalanced.

[Chaos Theory]

The facility tag in the University and Hive files, FACILITY if I remember, grants a facility without the prereq tech. Use that instead of, if I remember, FREEFAC, which is in the Angels and Pirates files.

[CEO Aaron]

That is actually a remarkably swell idea. I've got to try that.

[Chaos Theory]

My take on fixing Roze is, give her +1 probe instead of +2, give her robustness against Probe, and since that's 9 mods and the limit's 8, remove her SOCIAL, -POLICE entry. That way:

Case Original Altered
Start +2 Probe +1 Probe
PSA +4(0) Probe +3 Probe
Knowl +0 Probe +0 Probe
Both +2 Probe +2 Probe

[gwillybj]

FACILITY vs FREEFAC

Originally posted by Chaos Theory
The facility tag in the University and Hive files, FACILITY if I remember, grants a facility without the prereq tech. Use that instead of, if I remember, FREEFAC, which is in the Angels and Pirates files.

You remember correctly.

FACILITY, 4 = Free Perimeter Defense at every base from the beginning of the game (as in hive.txt).

FREEFAC, 34 = Free Covert Ops Center with discovery of Pre-Sentient Algorithms (as in angels.txt).

So, for the Data Angels to get the Covert Ops Center at every base from the beginning of the game, open angels.txt and change FREEFAC, 34 to FACILITY, 34.

Remember that they are "free" only in that you do not have to pay the construction costs (100 minerals). You do still have to pay the annual maintenance fee (2 Energy Credits).

Have a look at Free Facilities, a related lively discussion initiated by Mr. President in the Creation forum.

[CEO Aaron]

So does that mean that the free network node that University receives actually deducts from their treasury from the beginning of the game? News to me.

[The Mad Monk]

Yeah, I don't remember that being the case.

[Darsnan]

Well, I just gave the Pirates a FREEFAC, 37 (free Subsea Trunkline), and they started out with the Subsea Trunkline, so this is not as straightforward as it appears! I'll look into this further tonite gwillybj has it right as far as how to give the Data Angels a Free Covert Ops Center from the beginning of the game. FYI.

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[Lazerus]

Giving the AI that many facs early on that will be of no use but to subtract money and are probably going to drive it into debt unless it cheats.

[Maniac]

I have never seen a free facility cost any upkeep, so that shouldn't form a problem.

[Method]

Originally posted by Gufnork
If nothing else works you could always give them the required tech from the beginning.

you certainly don't want to do that. that'll mean they'll be able to build the hunter-seeker straight away