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    Do they actually provide a defensive bonus, or are they only good for protecting units in the field from artillery bombardment? In my present games, I almost never indulge in the construction of bunkers, but if they can help me hold a chokepoint against a determined assault, I might start.

  • #2
    They add 50% to any unit in it. I think they don't have a pasifism penalty either.

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    • #3
      In addition to the above, units destoyed in a bunker will not cause collateral damage to other stacked units.
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      • #4
        eh, I don't bother making bunkers. I usually make other units that intercept invading forces beforehand. I'd rather have my units in the city, where its safe.
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        • #5
          I'll agree that the tactical situations in which a bunker is useful are pretty limited, but I've had a few, for example, when taking on a much larger, similarly teched AI faction. Being unable to sustain momentum in conquering them wholesale (and unable to afford to build enough military to blow them up in one go), I'll often gobble up enough bases to reach a defensible choke point, then let them break themselves on my defenses. A well placed bunker will give me more flexibility in where I can place my choke point, and until the advent of Tachyon Fields, a bunker on rocky terrain is as good as any base with perimeter defenses.

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          • #6
            If your enemy develops nerve gas and air power, you might find bunkers useful for storing your units away from your bases.

            The same can't be said of airbases, though.
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            • #7
              Bunkers may be good at choke points. and vacant bunker out a few tile from the city on the only road stop the point unit cold with a "bunker captured" message.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                Bunkers may be good at choke points. and vacant bunker out a few tile from the city on the only road stop the point unit cold with a "bunker captured" message.
                ....which is SO damn annoying....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                  Bunkers may be good at choke points. and vacant bunker out a few tile from the city on the only road stop the point unit cold with a "bunker captured" message.
                  It's so annoying when that happens
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                  • #10
                    Touche
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                    • #11

                      check-point, road block, speed bump
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                      • #12
                        Isn't there any way at all to avoid that bunker capture? If not, building bunkers around all your bases is perhaps the best defence available in the game.
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                        • #13
                          well not really you can just fly over them as usual then your 3 or 4 rovers following up on the empty cities only need to take 1 bunker and you're into enemy territory.
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                          • #14
                            I'm not sure I understand you. If you place five bunkers in a row on your only magtube towards the base, won't you have to waste five rovers before reaching the base?
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                            • #15
                              Perhaps, but there's nothing there that won't stop a chop n' drop, or an amphibious landing. There's no point in investing more energy on a fixed fortification than the cost your enemies would pay to circumvent it, otherwise you're just hemorraging money for no good gain.

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