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  • Originally posted by Googlie
    I suggest we drop a rover-chassis drop colony pod
    AFAIK it's the fact that colony pods - just like probe teams - are non-combat units that prevents them of moving after being dropped. So making the CP a rover wouldn't help I think.

    Another option could be to make a normal rover colony pod and transport it to the desired location.

    Or if elite colony pods also get an extra movement point, a standard infantry CP would suffice if we first built a bioenhancement center in eg ARC (assuming that's the base where you want to build it).
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
    Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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    • It can be perilous if one does not execute the oscillation in an oscillating war. Mark my words, we should go after the Gaians, they are the next logical target. This is the more powerful move (i.e. the correct one), even if it is more resource-intensive.
      Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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      • If we can strike an enemy with our fusion units, before they get fusion units, then I think it is important to use that advantage. I doubt we will have time to stage an attack on the Gaians before they get fusion, but I think we can if we attack the Angels.

        This is an opportunity strike that I think will be a very strong move

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        • Personally I have no preference who to attack first. Even Morgan would make sense to me: he's the only one who can directly threaten our corelands after all.

          But no matter who we pick first, the time for the Gaians should come sometime, and therefore I was wondering - when we have some resources to spare - how about building two bases on the following locations? It would allow us to conduct air strikes, and a 7 MP transport can reach the Gaian coasts starting from those bases, allowing us infiltration.

          It would also allow us to pop those two pods in the Freshwater Sea.

          Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
          Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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          • As of MY 2197, this is how things stand between us and Morgan militarily:

            Total Morgan land forces (garrisons, offensive units, etc.): 25 units
            Total Spartan land forces to be deployed for Morgan invasion (11 from Laconia, 8 from South Arcadia, 4 from North Arcadia): 23 units!

            Our total army to be deployed is almost as large as their entire standing army! And our units are much more modern, high morale, and effective! Whoa!

            Total Morgan airforce: 13 units (7 tacticals, 6 offensive aircraft)
            Total Spartan air forces to be deployed for Morgan invasion:
            Arcadia: 13 (4 tacticals, 9 offensive aircraft)
            Laconia: 12 (6 tacticals, 6 offensive aircraft)
            Total: 25 units!

            Wow! We already are going to trump the Morganites in terms of brute force. If we can just add the element of surprise to that, they will have no chance.

            Edit: Some further thoughts...the only way the Morganites could possibly be tipped off to our invasion would be if they for some odd reason decide to fly their aircraft way out into the ocean to patrol their coasts and happen to stumble upon our task forces, or if they happen to notice our switch to power in MY 2198 and interpret that as meaning that something big is about to go down, possibly with them as the target. The first scenario is less likely, although the second is in the realm of possibility.
            Last edited by Zeiter; November 25, 2005, 07:15.
            Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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            • Originally posted by Zeiter
              Edit: Some further thoughts...the only way the Morganites could possibly be tipped off to our invasion would be if they for some odd reason decide to fly their aircraft way out into the ocean to patrol their coasts and happen to stumble upon our task forces, or if they happen to notice our switch to power in MY 2198 and interpret that as meaning that something big is about to go down, possibly with them as the target. The first scenario is less likely, although the second is in the realm of possibility.
              Perhaps post a Phalanx announcing we're going to finish off the Angels?
              Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
              Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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              • Originally posted by Maniac


                Perhaps post a Phalanx announcing we're going to finish off the Angels?
                Coming to the aid of our "soulbrothers", the Hive, who are being brutally savaged by those Angels?

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                • Originally posted by Googlie


                  Coming to the aid of our "soulbrothers", the Hive, who are being brutally savaged by those Angels?
                  Hmmm, interesting idea, although I wonder if such a story would do more harm than good, in that it may seem like we are purposefully trying to hide something. Whereas, if we just leave the issue alone, the Morganites might assume that our switch to power is directed against the Angels anyways.

                  Or, here's an idea: we write a propaganda piece about how evil the Data Angels are. We don't mention any concrete military plans, but we make it seem as if our attention is still very much focused on them. This way we can lead the Morganites to infer for themselves that our switch to power concerns the Data Angels, not them. And a propaganda piece does not necessarily entail any upcoming military action, in itself. The Morganites may just interpret it as showboating on our part, or us getting bored and feeling like rolling off a fun propaganda piece against the Angels.
                  Civ IV is digital crack. If you are a college student in the middle of the semester, don't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'm serious.

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                  • Another bonus from the shift to power (or at least, away from knowledge) is that our costs for probe actions becomes 2/3rds what they currently are (knowledge is 150% of standard)

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                    • Originally posted by Maniac

                      .................................................. .......... It would also allow us to pop those two pods in the Freshwater Sea.

                      http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?...FrontBases.jpg
                      First base established:




                      EDIT: dunno why the thumbpic thinggy didn't show - I copied the url that the upload section gave, but nada

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                      • Gentlemen ... Now what?
                        Do we attack the Hive?
                        Do we go after the Gaians?
                        Wrap up the Angels?
                        Settle down and bloat?
                        Disband the troops, establish a free market and raise huge piles of money?

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                        • LOL - YES to them all!!

                          this current (and maybe even the next) is a consolidation turn, where we build policemen for drone control in the acquired bases

                          Next turn we can start ferrying amphibious troops back to their transports and commence the drop sequences that'll get our drop troops into place in southern arcadia (for either the Angels or the gaians). Also, we can start shuttling the penetrators and Interceptors south

                          Plus, we can send the longstiders south as well, to be upgraded in a couple of turns to drop agents, for a gangrape probe of the gaians

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                          • The Angels have castrated themselves lately, and Morgan... Well, we all saw what happened. Yang is more useful as a buffer for us than he is for the others (due to our mobility), so I suggest we leave him alone. This time the Gaians simply must be the target.
                            Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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                            • I agree - onward to the Gaians

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                              • Yes, the Gaians are up next.
                                I think we need to infiltrate them asap too. I talked earlier about drop probes from Threenuts, I still think that is a good idea. First we need to send in a noodle to scout a few cities and determine what would be needed to infiltrate. Maybe we would need to empty a base with noodles in order to gain infiltration, and if so we might as well capture it with drop troops and obliterate it while we're at it. But on the other hand, it might be enough to use two or three drop probes to take out probe defenses and then infiltrate.

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