Diplomatic Contact with the Spartans

[Illuminatus]

Our Rover is somewhat limited in its movements due to the presence nearby of Hive units. (They have a former at 37:47 and a scout unit at 37:53). We might be able to move 1 tile north, but there is a Hive base (The Leaders' Horde) at 43:45 that will block us moving any further out of your way. However this might allow your mindworm access to the monolith at 38:50 for healing. It would be simpler for your mindworm to move 1 tile south into that forest tile to allow our rover to follow the river east, but if you have already moved (or hit spacebar) this turn for the mmindworm then we'll move our rover north next turn to clear the way for you to reach the monolith (by going due west 1 tile into the fungus and northwest 1 tile to the monolith)

We would be pleased to exchange partial screenshots with you - the 70 or so square tiles surrounding our rover and to its east - in exchange for a similar screenie from you of the 50 or so square-tiled cone-shaped area covering approximately 34:52 to 36:54 at its northern end to 39:42 to 36:68 at its southern arc (where we are assuming your mindworm - or a scout that captured it - travelled from)

From this exchange you'll see some opportunities for possible native wildlife capture and Hive base harrassment.

Are you interested?

Major Googlie (Commander, Covert Operations, Sparta Federation)

Incredible! Either they really believe we are to the southwest, or this is cleverly disguised message to determine where we really are. (I check coordinates, they basically want data on Angel landbridge area). Nevertheless, they've given us useful information. We cannot agree, so I suggest stalling, saying we are very thankful for information, some more stalling, mentioning poll and then saying that there was a poll was tied, which was sadly broken by a single vote of a conservative Gaian and the proposal was rejected.

Oh and Googlie offers comoderatorship of the diplomatic forum he created. Be free to apply if interested!

[Chaos Theory]

I believe we should back off 1 tile with our mindworm, to improve the chances we can get it past opposing forces. We probably don't have time for a proper vote on this, though.

Furthermore, we have a way out of the Spartans' offer: we dropped off the mind worm by foil. It's even completely true. Therefore, we do not have the map data they requested, because their assumption is false.

[Illuminatus]

Vote on what? Screenshot exchange? We can can't exchange it even if we wanted to . It is just a plan how to explain it to Spartans the refusal of their proposal. And I leave the unit movement to your judgement, it does seem good.

[Illuminatus]

Re: Honored Junta member...

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... please check our meeting room and ensure that rest of Junta receives new information (you are the only one currently online).

Your tripe has been reluctantly forwarded to the Junta.

You pathetic Gaians make me sick. Your weak and wretched society is just lulling around like dazed madmen on this awful planet, trying to talk to it. Trying to control the vile creatures who live here. Ha! And now you attempt to negotiate deals with us, babbling like idiots, indecisive like the little children you are. When we take control of the foreign office from that wimp Kassiopeia and his cronies you will wake up one morning to find your cities burning.

/ Captain Snoddasmannen
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This is what I received from a Spartan member after I Pmed him to point out new messages in forum. This is probably part of their roleplay, but since they want it, I made a thread in general section, questioning threats and their credibility expressed by him. I wonder how will they reply.

[Chaos Theory]

Not worried. They can't exert military might over us yet anyway.

[laurentius]

Message from Kassiopeia :

Urgent diplomatic issue

We have been contacted by an AI faction who wishes to acquire Industrial Automation (not the Hive). If you are willing to waive the trade embargo on Ind Auto we would be happy to pass over 50 ec's from the deal.

Our Covert Operations assure me that all human factions now have Industrial Automation, so profileration of this tech inside the human players would not be an issue.

Time is of the essence as Googlie is currently holding the turn open on his PC, so we would request a reply ASAP. We would like a reply from you before 0700 GMT (8 hours from the moment of posting). Copies of this message will soon be sent via PM and email to Illuminatus, Chaos Theory, laurentius and smacksim to get in contact with your faction as soon as possible.

Please respond in the ambassadorial forum or contact Googlie himself directly - I will be offline by 0700 GMT.

Best regards,

Major Kassiopeia

[Hydro]

Yes, by all means. SELL, SELL, SELL.

Your points are well taken.

BTW - which AI wants the tech?

Hydro

[Ouro_827]

Just curious, see if you can wangle a future bypass, if it doesn't delay negotiations

[Ouro_827]

Just recieved a PM from Kas. He wanted to make sure that we had the issue. Apparently speed is an issue..... Anyone else besides me and Hydro have a stance?

[Chaos Theory]

Sounds good, the more tech the AI has, the better we can steal from them.

[Chaos Theory]

Given the time constraint and our apparent consent, I'll post appropriately in the embassy.

[laurentius]

/me just woke up.

Alright. Hows this now? Looking good?

[Illuminatus]

I would have suggested that they included commlink to Lal (who is very likely to be on of the AIs) instead.

[Illuminatus]

Date Posted: 20/10/2004 11:02 AM


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Hi Lord Illuminatus!

"I have news from our Lords. You would probably find out that not all factions would trade Gene Splicing for IA, since Gene Splicing without IA is mostly unusable - we did you a favour by trading you IA - Angels would probably ask much more. Giving you IA should influence your growth greatly."

Please let's agree to disagree. I cannot see what good this discussion could bring.

"Also, until we get some news from Sparta about possible trading of Ethical Calculus I have been informed not to negotiate about possible technology exchanges for the time being."

We of the Junta have been discussing thoroughly the possibility of trading you Ethical Calculus, and a proposal from our side may follow soon. However the long time it's been taking us to reply is certainly not due to an unwillingness to trade with you. Rather it's because we do not know what you could possibly give us in return for our technology! While we've been offering a couple techs for sale - EthCalc, DocFlex, SotHB and perhaps a few others; I don't know, I'm not so involved in diplomacy - it is unclear to us what you can offer. That's why I'm glad you said this:

"However, we can easily offer you plenty of technologies now and in future should you decide to trade it."

To make trade between us easier and to give us an idea what you can offer us, could you please shed some openness on the following issues?

1) What are you currently researching? Would you be willing to coordinate our research so that you research techs we don't have yet, allowing us to trade techs you don't have to you? Including the possibility of leapfrogging?

2) What techs do you have we don't have yet?

3) Do you have sufficient credits? Would you be able to pay cash for techs?

4) Since you're in vendetta with Yang anyway, would you be willing to consider stealing techs from him, and then trade them to us?

This information should make it easier to promote trade between our factions.

Lt-Colonel Pedro 'Maniac' Riveira
Leader of the Pro-Gaian Wing



Hmmm, interesting comm indeed. Maniac himself Pmed to notify me of this. Either they are cooking sth or one of them is acting alone again. They have Flex according to this, so I guess Flex should have priority for aquiring over Calculus (we can get credits in return from Angels). I'll answer as best as I can. Also, I notified them to PM CT more often, since I have much less time now to spend on DG.

[livid imp]

Originally posted by Illuminatus
Either they are cooking sth or one of them is acting alone again.

Curiously, what makes you say this?

And about EC vs Doc:Flex......is it too early to try to trade for EC, then pop boom?