Lordship of Development

[Illuminatus]

We must take in consideration that at least two factions could behave aggresively (Spartans and Angels).

[Illuminatus]

MY 2102 turn discussion thread

Okay, our turn will arrive soon, so we need to discuss needed things. Fix energy allocation + move SP and CP north?

[Chaos Theory]

Sounds like this is the general consensus:

Move scout north
If scout succeeds (which is likely), move CP north
If scout fails, move CP either southwest or south (onto pod)

Move SE sliders to produce 2 labs and 0 energy at HQ (probably 80/20)

Choose Information Networks to research. If for some reason this is not available, choose Industrial Base to research.


Anything on here you don't like, or anything missing you want, speak up!

In the unlikely event the turn gets here and we have consensus before 1600 GMT, I'll play the turn. Otherwise, I'll be gone.

[Chaos Theory]

Hey, the turn is here! Everyone has about 12 hours to weigh in on the current turn plan. If consensus remains at that point, I'm playing the turn and sending it on.

[Net Warrior]

I'd still like to change production to a scout patrol and pop that pod with it ASAP. It's going to take at least 3 more years to build a former, 2 years to move it into place, and 6 years to build a solar collector. Instead, we can pop the pod in 2 turns and maybe get a special or a monolith, or energy or EC's to rush our next build (the former).

Other than that (which I've already been overruled on) I agree with Chaos Theory's plan.

[Net Warrior]

sorry, double post

[Chaos Theory]

Well, another plan is to move the CP north, and if it doesn't find a worm, move the scout patrol south. I'll quickly try to establish the odds of moving through fungus for the Gaians.

Timetable for the former:

2101: 10 mins accumulated, 2/turn, hurry cost of 20
2102: 12 mins accumulated, 2/turn, hurry cost of 14-15
2103: 14 mins accumulated, 2/turn, hurry cost of 9 (hurry now!)
2104: Former completed, start on {scout patrol, colony pod}

[smacksim]

Originally posted by Chaos Theory
Sounds like this is the general consensus:

Move scout north
If scout succeeds (which is likely), move CP north
If scout fails, move CP either southwest or south (onto pod)

Move SE sliders to produce 2 labs and 0 energy at HQ (probably 80/20)

Choose Information Networks to research. If for some reason this is not available, choose Industrial Base to research.

(really this time )

I'm of mixed minds about that unity pod. Most of me says wait, but you have a good point r/e some EC's. However, since we will be attempting to move the scout in another direction, if it fails, our CP will be alone. It should survive a MW, but what a horror if it didn't. No, I think we chould move adjacent to the Unity pod, build a base, build a scout, put a facility in both queues, and then pop it. If this means waiting for Biogenetics, so be it. This is all of course in the case that the scout doesn't make it into the fungus, which I'm sure she will.

Oh, comeon Mind Worm, be in there!

-Smack

{Edit: Forgot to say that if the scout discovers an endless fungal field to the north (if it obviously extends off the visible), then I think we should also then move the CP SW in that case } -S

[Chaos Theory]

A colony pod (or other noncombat unit) defending against a Mind Worm this early in fungus has 2:3 odds.

[Chaos Theory]

Some quick numbers about Gaians moving in fungus:

With average native life, in several games, moving my two starting CPs and one scout in fungus, not having founded a base, and usually moving into previously-unentered fungus:

38 successful entries
8 unsuccessful tries
13 native life (7 worms, 6 spore launchers)

If we discard the native life as a neutral outcome, then we have a ~17% chance of failing to move into a fungal tile.

[Net Warrior]

If we lose the CP, our game is destroyed. Even if it's only a small chance I say better save than sorry and we should keep the CP and scout together.

[Chaos Theory]

If the scout fails to move north (unlikely, but not that unlikely), then where should the CP go?

If it goes north, it becomes unaccompanied, though ideally only for a single turn in fungus

If it goes south, it pops a pod which may be better saved, or may be better popped now. If it pops worms, not only might the CP be in danger, but the HQ, too.

If it goes southwest, no particular risks are assumed, and it can form a base on the following turn.

[smacksim]

I gotta go with Chaos on that. We can't be perfectly safe and have any chance either. This is a small risk worth taking. Popping the pod with a CP is magnitude riskier, and even that isn't so bad. The SW, not on the pod, is my vote for the scout-no-move case.

-Smack

[Net Warrior]

Ok then, so it's SW if the scout can't go north

[Illuminatus]

I throw my vote for SW too, if scout doesn't make it.