Lordship of Diplomacy

[Illuminatus]

We should prepare for contacts with another factions. This thread should serve for that. We could appoint ambassadors to other factions, that would relay messages abck and forth, and also receive them. We can do diplomacy via PMing or chats (it is very likely that Spartans will use IRC to communicate with us). Also, each message should be discussed before sending, and any messages received should be posted here, as well as official chatlogs. Also, policy towards other factions should be discussed here. I will branch out special threads for each of other three teams as we meet them, but here we should discuss general things like policy towards others and AIs. Is anyone interested in becoming an ambassador? We will need one in future, and I do not wish to meddle with diplomacy, at least not in great measure.
Also, we should decide what image do we wish to send to other factions. We can already discuss what we can get from what faction, and possible threats from them. I hope we do not meet Angels first, msot of them are Pirates - there was a diplo scandals in previous ACDG, and they were known to meddle with negotiaons (bartering, last minute changes to offer and so) which led them to be the first faction attacked, by its former pactmate. If we do meet them, I will examine forums of CyCon and Pirates in archive and evaluate if we are in such a danger, and what exactly caused the war if this happens. Morgans - we could trade for IE with them, if possible, although I doubt it will be credits, I would evaluate them as msotly harmless. Spartans - might not try to attack us immediately, certainly not to be fully trusted despite their possible image.

[Chaos Theory]

I'd be willing to deal with some other faction, but keep in mind I tend to be stubborn. My typical response to AI's demands is to tell them to shove off, and I would be inclined to react to human demands the same way. Factions which want mutual benefit I would be nicer to.

[Illuminatus]

Hmmm we ust remember also that testing AIs responses is allowed, as long as we don't trade world maps, so I will test AI responses each turn.

[Chaos Theory]

What AI responses can we test now?

[Illuminatus]

To see what it is offering us - eg what will it suggest, trade, treaty, or will it threathen us. We cannot accept maps in any case.
EDIT: We cannot accept any trade.

[Octavian X]

I'd volunteer to work as an ambassador to another team, or as some sort of coordinator of our diplomatic efforts.

[smacksim]

I second Octavian X. Who can resist the Xenodoughnut?

[Illuminatus]

I doubt there is need to second it. Octavian X is obviously first Lord of Diplomacy . We may need more people in future however.

[smacksim]

That settled, we need a specific set of policies.

[Octavian X]

Let's see, then...

We will probably appoint individual ambassadors to serve as links to other teams as we meet them.

As for policy, well, that'll be a bit trickier. Seeing as no plans or need of invasion currently exists, we'd do better, I think, to initally pursue a policy of neutrality in all our diplomatic affairs.

And, I hate to annouce this after such an important appointment, but I will be away August 4 -11. Whether or not I'll have internet access remains to be seen.

[Illuminatus]

We need some kind of template for first contact.

Like sending the same message to all members (sort of a broadcast to all frequencies) of a faction when we first encounter it.

Something along the lines:



This an automated broadcast for the Gaian Union. The message is being emitted on all frequencies and all of your members should receive it. We have encountered you faction and we wish to establish official diplomatic relations with you. We are a peaceful nation, dedicated to preservation of the environment, progress and growth. We have no ill intentions towards you and we look forward to cooperation with you.
< insert some lines of appreciation of their society >
< insert some lines about similarities with our society >
< insert some lines about benefits of our strengths pooled >
< optional: insert proposal about treaty of friendship >
We will appoint ambassador to your nation, and in the meantime, we ask you to direct all communication to us towards our Lord of Diplomacy Lord Octavian X, and to Chairman of the High Council Lord Chaos Theory.

Should we attempt to offer treaty of friendship immediately? I see no harm in offering the treaty imemdiately upon contact, but I may be wrong.

For Spartans:

We understand your tendencies for power and survival and indeed this Planet can be a dangerous place. We appreciate your tendencies to explore the Planet, which is a common trait for us. We want to show you that Planet does not neccesary need to be your friend, but your ally and partner. If we pool our resources we could create a powerblock that would have military domination over other factions, and could face any threat. We are interested in research cooperation and establishing trade routes.

For Morgans:

We understand you desire for money and prosperity, although we warn you to watch your development so that it doesn't cause too much damage to the Planet. We appreciate your lust for knowledge which is a common trait for our people. We wish to teach you how to maintain harmony with Planet while pursuing your individual goals, and we hope that goal is acceptable to you.
If we pool our resources together we could create a power block that would outtech others, and ensure prosperity and peace for both of our peoples. We are interested in research cooperation and establishing trade routes.


For Angels:

We appreciate your tendencies for freedom and free flow of information. You tendencies for a free society is much like our own, and your preferences for democratic system is also notable. However we are worried about your hacking tendencies and we warn you not to try to disrupt flow of information in Gaian Union.
If we pool our resources we could create a hybrid block that would ensure prosperity of both of our peoples and would successfully stand firm to any opposition from other factions. We are interested in research cooperation and establishing trade routes.

[Octavian X]

Sounds good. It never hurts to be ready beforehand.

[Chaos Theory]

I'd be happy enough to offer a treaty to a non-belligerant human faction. How about the AIs, though? When we meet them, they'll want to talk immediately. When that happens, my plan is to post to the forum and leave the turn open in negotiations. Still, do we want some plans for the AI?

Options:

Be very generous and give into demands. Try for a treaty and pact at all costs, short of giving up a city.

Trade if desirable and give into a demand possibly. Try for a treaty but don't give up too much for it.

Spurn demands but accept favorable overtures, such as an offer of a treaty.

Demand their HQ.

[Illuminatus]

I hope that someone will be online when AI contact happens CT. It will depend largely on AI mood an type, also, if we are rated very weak, we will be target of extortion. Anyway, I am going to be unavailable for a day or two, so I hope CT and NW can manage the faction alone for now. I hope others will help them too, in case that there is someone who is still watching.

[binTravkin]

*Lord of Diplomacy on vacation, department reported to be empty

Hey I've always wanted this post (or somesuch) and Im very expierenced in diplomacies with AI!