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  • #31
    I just took a look on the game file (2132) and realised that we could make PKs and Uni our AI allies and Spartans our human allies

    PKs will be quite easy as we're goin to have 2 of Lals beloved SE -> Planned/Demo

    Uni will be a tough nut, but for tech stolen either from Morgan or Angels they'd be our pets (I think in 20yrs Angels or Morgan will have the techlead

    We should pact Spartans as soon as they infiltrate us or get our territory maps
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    • #32
      There are rumors that the hiverian lands to N from us are landbridged to every human opponents' land too!

      And PKs and Uni are on the same continent

      That means, we can't get both PKs and Uni as allies as they'll not like each other

      Therefore I propose to ally PKs and probe Uni

      We can't ally Hive, but we can give in for their demands and try to convince them to attack any of our opponents, most likely - Angels!

      Maybe not at the 1st time we met Hive, but after we've probed Uni a bit - then we can use those techs to make a gift large enough to make Yang our puppet..
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      • #33
        Looks good, Mr. Advisor.

        Just remember, its next to impossible to get any human team to invade someone else for you. And, if they do, there's almost always a catch. Our future diplomatic plans will most certainly, in the end, be decided by the circumstances of the rest of the Planet.

        And, a general reminder - keep an eye the Angel contact thread. We need to decide what to do in regard to our new human neighbors. This may even warrant a special edition of VotP.
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        • #34
          We can't ally Hive, but we can give in for their demands and try to convince them to attack any of our opponents, most likely - Angels!
          My point was to bribe HIVE to attack ANGELS!

          Do you think it won't work?
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          • #35
            It might work, but without knowing if they are connected by land, it seems an expensive way to find out. Also, bribed factions can be appeased. Thirdly, that's a lot of cash most likely. Finally, we aren't really ready to take advantage of a Hive offensive.

            Interesting idea, but even more interesting is CT's idea of having a go at the Hive itself with some worms. If we could subjugate them...
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            • #36
              EDIT: Post redundant.
              Why is nowhere in this thread mentioned that message has been sent to Angels? Every message sent should posted with it's content, list of persons sent to in a thread. I found that we have made contact with Angels, but nowhere the fact if we sent anything is said - for example CT asks about message, but nowhere it is said if it was sent after it was approved or to whom. I took me half an hour, PMs and opening the presend to find out this. We should always post notifications about messages sent/received in a thread related to diplomatic contact with that faction. For example:
              Sent
              *text of message sent
              to X,Y and Z in faction S.
              In a thread dedicated to faction diplomacy with faction S.
              Just my opinion.
              Last edited by Illuminatus; September 2, 2004, 13:47.
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              • #37
                And one of the Angel turnplayers is Enigma Nova, which is well known for his cheating via deleting reload key at registry and agressivity!
                He may even disregard his own comrades' opinion and attack us - his psychological profile shows it well!
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                • #38
                  I think the message still was sent as CT received it at 8:18 and sent the turn to Angels at 9:00
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                  • #39
                    Read my post above. We should carefully make track of diplomatic contact. . Also, binTravkin, EN has been kicked out of ACDG for cheating some time ago, so no dangers described. But be warned, that most of Angels were members of Pirate faction in last ACDG which has been betrayed, attacked and eliminated by its former pactbrothers, CyCon. So we still need to be careful with them.
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                    • #40
                      Diplomatic Correspondance Thread

                      As you requested, Illuminatus. That'll be the thread for copying down all our back and forth messages.
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                      • #41
                        Nice idea Octavian. Also stickied as per your request. BTW how are we going with ambassador business? Has anyone voluntereed?
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                        • #42
                          I need something to do.....

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                          • #43
                            We'll probably open the floor to nominations and applications for the position of Ambassador to the Angels. By Tuesday (seeing as it is Labor Day in the US), we'd just run an election.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Octavian X
                              We'll probably open the floor to nominations and applications for the position of Ambassador to the Angels. By Tuesday (seeing as it is Labor Day in the US), we'd just run an election.
                              In absence of activity in High Council I declare the contest open. Any applications?
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                              • #45
                                I think the only appliccation has been made by Ouro_827, so he should be "elected"!
                                Just let him know that he has an official seat now!
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