Turn 2160

[Snowflake]

Agree with CMC at setting base at [22,34]. This is my original plan also before I referenced Jamski and Kody's plan. However I agree that time do not allow us to move further to the coast.

One question regarding DA invasion. Can't we take Coder's Pit instead of letting CCs take it?

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Jamski
Yes Goddammit. I shall leave the Hive if we gangbang the Uni this turn with the Drones.

Its just not fun to play the big bully, and here we are playing as the big bully's "yes man"

Its sickening, the things this faction want to do just because we want to win.

-Jam

I understand your feeling Jamski. However you should have worked much harder much earlier to pursuade others to change plan. Your idea won't fly at the last minute when the Mead is about to press the red button.

[Jamski]

HOW long have I said we should pact with the CyCon vs the Drones? Months? Years? *sigh*

Noone bothered to listen untill it was too late to fix it.

I never even saw a poll "Should we attack the CyCon?"



Oh my Hive

-Jam

[Snowflake]

We are not attacking the CyCons Jamski. It is the Uni that is the target. We've been planning to attack Uni from the very beginning. You are actually one of the most prominent initiator of that plan Jamski. You cannot blame others hundred years later for carrying out your initiatives.

[Snowflake]

And you sabortaged the Hive CC relationship not too long ago yourself, when I was working alone trying to bring the two factions together, IIRC.

[Jamski]

The Uni were formerly not part of the CyUni though.

As you well know, I wanted to pact-up with the CyCon before the game even started.



-Jam

[Snowflake]

Sure. But wanting is really different from doing dear Jamski.

[Mead]

Re: CMC: 2160 suggestions

Originally posted by Rubin
There are 3 areas of importance this year. Here are the initial suggestions of the Central Military Committee:

1) Production Allocation and Central Planning:
Prepare military base at [22,34] by setting up a sensor array at exactly these coordinates and start the production of a colony pod; Frankyburg is an excellent choice. We do NOT have much time!

Eight or nine bases are ready for new production orders:
- a Colony Pod
- an Interceptor or Penetrator
- 2 Drop Probes
- 2 Drop Plasma Garrisons

This gives 2 or 3 free bases for additional production requests. By default they should produce Drop Probes, which gives us optimal troop flexibility. Energy reserves should be carefully allocated as we may need extra credits soon!

That may mean no or few rushes. The lower terrain terforming will cost some cash too.

2) Operation "Brainwave":
Proceed with the plans presented by Foreman buster. We should focus on swift conquest of ALL remaining University bases. However, it may be advised to contact the Free Drones and get a few things straight:

1) What are the Free Drone plans succeeding the University invasion?
2) Are the Free Drones willing to help the Hive defending the new settlements?
3) What is the situation regarding CyCon probe-warfare?

Good questions. I am not worried about how we play our invasion this turn, but I am worried about next turn when we take bases on the coast which will be vulnerable to probe foil actions.

We have troops already designated for the invasion and these should be dispatched without hesitation.

It will happen.

3) Data Angel region:
The Data Angel base, Coder's Pit, is expected lost to the CyCon. CyCon transport located at [34,50] (visible from Coder's Pit). I strongly suggest that the transport is eliminated; we have 5 units nearby (including 2 badly damaged Choppers). Dispatch any of these to eliminate the transport.

Using either of those badly damaged choppers is a suicide mission. It may take both of them to eliminate the cruiser. I am not sure if it has an escort. I agree the transport must be destroyed even if we take losses. Is it up to me what means to kill it (with ships or choppers?)

The CyCon Impact Cruiser at [30,46] should be considered secondary target, though it poses no real threat. We have idle aircraft at New Moscow to deal with it if nothing else is possible.

Agreed. The New Moscow aircraft should be able to kill it.

Reconnaissance should be high priority in this area and our military forces should ideally soon be invading Data Angel territory. CyCon may capture a few Data Angel bases. I had hoped for an invasion by M.Y. 2164; this is probably not possible now, but we should not let the CyCon hold Data Angel bases for more than a few years--Aerospace Complexes would be devastating for a swift invasion.

Aircraft will recon. If I leave ships in the area they will just be targets for CyCon. A picket force that is destroyed on contact.


If my understanding in ny of the above is incorrect let me know.

I will start the turn shortly.

Once I log off to do the turn I'll begin with the Uni invasion, followed by teraforming and production planning. Then I will save it, log back on, upload the turn for review and comment. Then later tonight, after I see everyone's comments, I finish the turn, including rushes
and Data Angel Theater of Operations. Then I'll hit end turn and post the turn. If you all want another view of the turn before I hit end turn let me know.




Mead

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Jamski
Its sickening, the things this faction want to do just because we want to win.

-Jam

You’ve misunderstood the motives of some of us here; I for one am sticking with the Drones not out of desire for victory, but because we entered into an agreement to work together until the end, they have honored it and I think we should as well. For this reason alone I think our relations with the Drones should remain and improve, we made a commitment, one which I intend to keep.

[Jamski]

Our relation ship with the Drone is something between you and Buster. I suggest the time has come for you to step down, as it is clear you have no interest in continuing this game.

-Jam

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Jamski
Our relation ship with the Drone is something between you and Buster. I suggest the time has come for you to step down, as it is clear you have no interest in continuing this game.

-Jam

Our relations with the Drones is something the Hive all agreed to ages ago, we spend months deliberating it before we decided to entire into this permanent-pact. I do not know what definition of ‘permanent’ you’re using, but in mine it implies that it does not end.

[Jamski]

Don't play semantic games. We are quite capable of breaking it if the will to break it was there even if it was called "Superduper cannote ever be broken pact of eternal friendship"

-Jam

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Jamski
Don't play semantic games. We are quite capable of breaking it if the will to break it was there even if it was called "Superduper cannote ever be broken pact of eternal friendship"

-Jam

And no one except you wants to break it.

[Jamski]

Proposal : If you are all tired of playing the game, I'll take over the whole Hive, you "early shower types" can all leave and then the game can go on with those players that still have an interest.

-Jam

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Jamski
Proposal : If you are all tired of playing the game, I'll take over the whole Hive, you "early shower types" can all leave and then the game can go on with those players that still have an interest.

-Jam

Good one.