War Preparation

[Snowflake]

Comrades, be prepared, we are going to war!

In preparation of the war, I have a couple suggestions. First, I propose to reactivate the shaddow ministry for the purpose of univ war preparation. I believe that it is highly likely that the Hive forum is infiltrated by the CCs and would prefer not to discuss the details of the war in here. All of the loyal comrades in the Hive will be added there. I will ask buster to post the turn in there instead of posting in the public forum. I would like to have some discussion about this.

Secondly, I would like to know who else can be our turn player for at least the next four or five turns. If we are going to prepare going into a war I think we should try keep the same turn player so that he can be familiar with what's going on. I can do it temporarily if we can't find a turn player quick enough, but I would need a lot of help from everybody. I'm going to start a job list thread and list specific areas that I can think that may help us but I won't have time to do.

Comrades, please we need everybody's help! Let's go kick some b**ts!

[Nubclear]

Highly likely? Please explain.

[Snowflake]

Enigma had told me that laurentise(sp) of the CC said that the only faction he is not infiltrated is the Drones. Plus I'm still wondering who was the first one that downloaded Hive's save for the last turn.

[Googlie]

Originally posted by HongHu
laurentise(sp) of the CC said that the only faction he is not infiltrated is the Drones.

I think it was just braggart talking.

I have seen no evidence in anyones' forums that other forums have been infiltrated. In fact, as Tass will attest, the utter confusion in some forums re other faction's situations causes us to chuckle from time to time

G.

[Nubclear]

Googlie...get on MSN. We have a situation to discuss.

[Mead]

Re: War Preparation

Originally posted by HongHu
Comrades, be prepared, we are going to war!

In preparation of the war, I have a couple suggestions. First, I propose to reactivate the shaddow ministry for the purpose of univ war preparation.

I am OK with that. Limit it to those members who are active in the Hive. If someone else wants in then they should post a request; as well as offer a reason why they want in, and why they have not yet been active until access was limited.

I just hope that I can access the shadow.

I believe that it is highly likely that the Hive forum is infiltrated by the CCs and would prefer not to discuss the details of the war in here. All of the loyal comrades in the Hive will be added there. I will ask buster to post the turn in there instead of posting in the public forum. I would like to have some discussion about this.

Although it looks like Tassadar is trying to clear the Deadwood right now, your suggestion has merit.

Secondly, I would like to know who else can be our turn player for at least the next four or five turns. If we are going to prepare going into a war I think we should try keep the same turn player so that he can be familiar with what's going on. I can do it temporarily if we can't find a turn player quick enough, but I would need a lot of help from everybody. I'm going to start a job list thread and list specific areas that I can think that may help us but I won't have time to do.

Although I'll try to help you, entering this crucial period we need someone with real experiance as turnplayer.

I will try to run pararell turns so the turnplayer can see what I have done, and if any of it is of value, incorporate it into the real turn.

Comrades, please we need everybody's help! Let's go kick some b**ts!

Yes, it looks like us and the Drones vs. Cycon.

I think the CyCons saw the writting on the wall with the Drones and us picking up the powerful SPs and knew that they needed to act soon.

But why would Uni allow themselves to be taken by CyCon without even talking to us?


Mead

[Mead]

It is starting to look to me like:

Drones, Hive, and Peace vs. CyCon and Uni


Let me know what everyone thinks.

If we agree then we should consider sharing this thought with our allies (Drones and Peace)

We need to consider coordianating our battle plans with our allies and bring this game to a quick
(victorious) conclusion.


Mead

[Mead]

When do we (Will we?) change from Wealth?

Usually,

When I decide to go to war I change from Wealth to something else.

Right now, it looks like we only have Survival to go to.

Wealth, although it gives us +3 industry and -1 Economy, also sticks us with -2 Morale. This is something I do not want to have to build a military with.

Consider:

With Wealth Settings:

and our military unit cities creating combat units; will will get units that are disciplined.

This is because: very green + ((+2 command nexus or cloudbase +2 bioenhancment center))/2 which is [-1 morale, morale enhancers halved]

With Survival settings we get green +2 command nexus or cloudbase +2 bioenhancement = commando.

Additionally, there are nice monoliths just outside Meadopolis (we need a road built there, on the monolith), and Rokossovkygrad (which already has a road built there) that will give our land (Drop) units a top off to Elite morale.

I do not think we should make the change from Wealth just yet, but we should strongly consider it just before we rush build a bunch of military units.

I have not run the numbers. I know the costs of making the commando/elite units (Survival SE units) is greater than the disciplined (Wealth SE units), but I think that the additional costs of the substantially stronger (and faster) units are worth it.

Mead


PS

Please enlighten me on the morale properties of units based/made at bases that have children's creches, when they are away from their bases.

[Snowflake]

I think we need Comrade Vev to spam this topic a little.

[Octavian X]

I'd have no objections to reopening the shadow ministry, under a few condititions.

1. It be renamed something that doesn't imply excessive secrecy - The Emergency Management Ministry, or something like that.

2. The fact that such a ministry is operating be made clear in a topped thread in this forum, with information on the ministry's organization, purpose, and guidelines for entry.

3. All major policy decisions should be made this forum.

[Vander]

War is good. It'll give me something to write about, for once! Is there anything I can do with PRAVDA?

[Snowflake]

Do we need to poll if SE change is needed? Comrade Mead will you be able to do the poll?

I agree with all of Comrade Oct's suggestions regarding shaddow forum. I especially agree that the major policy decisions should be made here. The shaddow is only needed to talk about details, such as how many what units is going to attack which base at which hour, etc.

Regarding Pravda, I for one would like to see an article or something addressing the glorious accomplishment of the cloudbase academy SP with comments addressing enigma's contribution.

[Voltaire]

I am in full agreement and in full support of this mobilization order, the CyCon have gone too far and now remain the biggest threat to the Hive, action must be taken to secure our safety.

First and foremost I believe our priority should be the defense of the homeland, we must ensure that we are beyond defeat; our enemy will be the one that paves the path to victory through its mistakes.

The Hive homeland is seriously under-defended, the police Scout Patrols will not be enough to guard us against the infantry of the CyCon-Uni alliance if they reach our soil. Therefore we need to reinforce ground defense. But this should be done with the full intention of never allowing the CyCon-Uni to reach our soil. The first line of defense of the Hive must be naval, we need to keep their transports away from Hive soil therefore making the second line of defense redundant (keeping in mind redundancy in the military isn’t necessarily a bad things).

Once we have done this IMO only then can we think of a counter-invasion or invasion of the enemie’s homeland.

[Frankychan]

Agreed. What if we plan a "rolling defense"?

For instance, we can allocate PEACE to defend our shores from transports as a primary job, but still have a navy for additional protection. Whereas the Drones and ourselves would provide overlapping zones of protection between our land bases THEN amass an invasion sortie. Depending on which base of which faction can pump them out, I would say have rovers positioned in such a way where they can provide immediate assistance to places under attack.

I've done this a couple of times and while it may be taxing, resource-wise, I've found that it helps in either repulsing or stalling invaders when the s*** hits the fan. If someone has a better plan, I'm all for it.

What if PEACE ran a diversion bombardment while we begin our mobilization?

[Snowflake]

If we can try help PEACE to be afloat for four or five turns, then I think it is likely that the CCs will not divert their effort to us this quick. The univ right doesn't have the ability of attacking us. One of the threat of a CC-univ alliance to me is their research ability. If we don't attack uni now and wait till they have DAP and MMI then it will be much harder to fight them. That's why I think we should try to eliminate the univ as soon as possible.

If we have a good air force it could also serve as our first line of defense, that is to spot and attack any attacks from the sea.